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Code of Silence follows the parallel journeys of a fervently Orthodox Jewish father and his now-secular son, after the son Manny breaks the code of silence in Melbourne’s Orthodox community and goes public with his story about being abused as a student. Manny Waks demands the perpetrators be brought to justice, as well as the rabbis, whom he claims covered it up.
His father Zephaniah joins forces with his son, but soon finds he has been virtually excommunicated for breaking an ancient Jewish law forbidding Jews from informing secular authorities about other Jews.
We see how father and son split this tightly-knit, powerful Jewish community as we open the door into their insular world of study and duty, charity and faith, power and piety.
Will Manny get justice in court? Will the rabbis be held to account? And, what price will the father and son pay for blowing the whistle?
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0:022 secondsIf I can't come forward, can't go public about this issue, there is no way anyone else will. So, as a victim, I needed to stand up. I just needed to.
0:1515 secondsAs a boy, Manny Wax was sexually abused by an Orthodox Jewish security guard employed by the Yeshiva Center in Melbourne.
0:2424 secondsPeople often think about the toll on the victims, but there is an incredible toll that the victim's families
0:3232 secondsalso also have to pay.
0:3939 secondsWhen Manny went public in 2011, alleging highlevel coverups, he shattered a millennia old ultra orthodox code of silence.
0:5252 secondsThe punishment for informing non-Jewish authorities used to be excommunication and centuries ago even death.
1:011 minute, 1 secondToday, Manny's father is bearing the brunt of the backlash.
1:071 minute, 7 secondsHis relationship with the community he gave most of his life to has been poisoned.
1:141 minute, 14 secondsI need a written declaration from the rabbi that I am not an informer and that my son is not an informer and that talking to the police and the media is
1:221 minute, 22 secondsnot against Jewish law and therefore no basis to shun me at all.
1:341 minute, 34 secondsAny instance of child abuse is a vile and evil thing. Australia.
1:391 minute, 39 secondsWhen Prime Minister Julia Giller Austral sexual abuse, it followed an explosive
1:481 minute, 48 secondsstring of accusations against Catholic clergy and church hierarchy.
1:521 minute, 52 secondsThey've not only had their trust betrayed by the abuser, but other adults who could have acted to assist them have failed to do so.
2:012 minutes, 1 secondThe revelations were shocking and further tarnished the Catholic Church's already damaged reputation.
2:102 minutes, 10 secondsBut Christianity wasn't the only religion embroiled in child sexual abuse.
2:162 minutes, 16 secondsIn Melbourne, Jews were struggling to keep the lid on their own Pandora's box of scandals.
2:232 minutes, 23 secondsWe never spoke about this issue. It was always a Catholic Church issue. And I remember seeing this over time that, you know, every time there's a scandal with the Catholic Church, I'm thinking, well,
2:312 minutes, 31 secondsit's not just the Catholic Church. It's within us, our own community as well.
2:382 minutes, 38 secondsFor Manny Wax, that community was the Yeshiva Center, a vast complex that's home to Melbourne's fervently orthodox Habard Lubavage Jews.
2:502 minutes, 50 secondsLess than 5,000 live in Australia, with most in the Melbourne suburb of Balaclava. With their distinctive black hats,
2:592 minutes, 59 secondsbeards and coats, Kabad Jews are highly visible and intensely pious.
3:073 minutes, 7 secondsTheir mission of connecting non-Orthodox Jews to Judaism has made them a revered part of Jewish life. Just takes 10 seconds of blessing and that's it.
3:163 minutes, 16 secondsGrowing up in a Kabad family and community is all I've ever really known.
3:203 minutes, 20 secondsSo, uh, for me it was just a part of my DNA almost.
3:273 minutes, 27 secondsManny is the eldest son of 17 children,
3:313 minutes, 31 secondsshort for Manakam. He was named after the leader of the movement in New York, Manakam Mendel Schnea.
3:383 minutes, 38 secondsMany of his followers believed he might be the Messiah. And even though he died in 1994,
3:443 minutes, 44 secondssome still do.
3:483 minutes, 48 secondsThe Wax family, believed to be Australia's largest, was a pivotal part of the Kabad community.
3:563 minutes, 56 secondsYseph, Rifka, Schlom, Estie. 16 of the children have grown up. Miguel, Manny.
4:034 minutes, 3 secondsOnly the youngest still lives. Bel, Yankee,
4:084 minutes, 8 secondsBeing of 17 is really all I've ever known. It was just natural. It was just going to the annual event to go to the uh hospital to pick up the next baby.
4:154 minutes, 15 secondsAnd the house kept on getting bigger and and the family was expanding.
4:204 minutes, 20 secondsI ran it very much with a very strict hand, very much like a military camp. You didn't eat it when mommy was here.
4:274 minutes, 27 secondsDid you eat or not?
4:294 minutes, 29 secondsI saw you here this morning. You did eat breakfast. That's not true. That other people would find it uh very oppressive or repressive.
4:374 minutes, 37 secondsNow, I still get flack from it on blogs now as if a as a dictatorial tyrant. the relationship between us is not being one
4:444 minutes, 44 secondsof a lot of emotions and I mean when you got 17 kids you probably don't have that time to have that emotional relationship
4:534 minutes, 53 secondsthey were different times they were uh a lot of war has flown under many bridges since then what can I
5:005 minutestell you one could never have dreamt that we would be where we are today doing what we're doing today
5:095 minutes, 9 secondsthe Torah commands Jews to observe 600 113 commandments.
5:145 minutes, 14 secondsEvery day, Orthodox Jews adhere to scores of laws they rigorously follow. Amen.
5:205 minutes, 20 secondsIn addition, Kabad Jews have their own distinct customs.
5:245 minutes, 24 secondsThere are these meticulous practices. If you're right-handed and that's your strongest side, then your shirt, you put the right hand first and then the left
5:325 minutes, 32 secondshand. Uh you've got to the same thing with the pants, the shoes. All these things kind of dominate every aspect of your life.
5:415 minutes, 41 seconds[Music]
5:435 minutes, 43 secondsThe focal point of their faith, the yeshiva center is directly across the road.
5:515 minutes, 51 secondsThe yeshiva center is essentially the peak group for the ultraorththodox Lubavich movement. There are schools.
6:006 minutesThere are youth groups. It is a lifeline for family support, for guidance, for community. Next,
6:126 minutes, 12 secondsat Yeshiva College, Manny was immersed in the study of the Torah for up to 14 hours a day.
6:206 minutes, 20 secondsI was a student at that school, and I could not have thought of a warmer, more caring or safe environment.
6:326 minutes, 32 secondsWhen Manny was 11, no one suspected his warm, caring, and safe habad world was being turned upside down by the center
6:416 minutes, 41 secondssecurity guard, who also taught some of the boys martial arts. He was my karate teacher. He used to pick me up and take
6:506 minutes, 50 secondsme to the class to and from the karate classes. He used to molest me.
7:007 minutesHe used to do some degrading things as well during the class.
7:057 minutes, 5 secondsThe most serious events that I remember happened inside the mikvah, the ritual bath.
7:127 minutes, 12 secondsHe used to tell me, I don't want to go to the mikvah. So he said, I can't go
7:197 minutes, 19 secondsbetween 12:00, I think, to 1. I'll go later. That's when I start to understand
7:257 minutes, 25 secondssomething happening was very naive to face this problem. I never even
7:347 minutes, 34 secondsdreamed there is a problem like that you know that's it's hard very hard it's a
7:437 minutes, 43 secondsplace of religious significance it is usual practice that you have a bath naked then he was caressing my thighs
7:507 minutes, 50 secondsand playing with my penis by holding his hand around it and rubbing his hand up and down it
7:577 minutes, 57 secondsleft an indelible mark on me. He did what he did in in a in a so-called holy place.
8:058 minutes, 5 secondsUm, and then at the end of it, you got to such an extent that I blacked out just,
8:128 minutes, 12 secondsyou know, we certainly had no idea, not myself,
8:168 minutes, 16 secondsnot my parents, nor anyone else for that matter, that that he was being abused.
8:228 minutes, 22 secondsBut Manny's parents began noticing a change in his behavior when he was around 11 or 12.
8:298 minutes, 29 secondsWell, disturbing in class a little bit.
8:338 minutes, 33 secondsA little bit. Uh maybe talking. I don't know.
8:398 minutes, 39 secondsI started desecrating the Sabbath and and and not keeping the Jewish laws and desecrating all sorts of other laws. It
8:478 minutes, 47 secondstook a lot of courage to do because uh you know, desecrating the Sabbath growing up, you learn that you're going to get stoned to death.
8:578 minutes, 57 secondsAnd I'll never forget the first piece of not kosher meat or chicken that I had. I forced myself. I said, "I need to finish this and I need to do it because, you
9:069 minutes, 6 secondsknow, I just needed to become not religious and do these not religious things." That's how strongly I felt about it. And I remember screaming at one stage, you know, I hate this house.
9:159 minutes, 15 secondsI don't want to live here anymore.
9:189 minutes, 18 secondsHe rebelled and started breaking the rules. You know, we had no no access to TV or movies or non-Jewish music or
9:259 minutes, 25 secondsgirls. and and he started doing all those things. My parents threw me out of the house.
9:339 minutes, 33 secondsThat wasn't something that I particularly remember fondly of. I mean, I was having fun, but it was, you know, not in the
9:409 minutes, 40 secondsmost healthy ways. I didn't talk to them for I think it was a couple of years.
9:459 minutes, 45 secondsSo, he ended up being out of home in in different ways eventually leading to his uh migration to Israel.
9:559 minutes, 55 secondsIn Israel, Manny joined the army,
9:589 minutes, 58 secondsspending 2 and 1/2 years in the Israel Defense Force.
10:0310 minutes, 3 secondsIn 1996, he returned to Australia for a few months for his sister's wedding.
10:0910 minutes, 9 secondsBefore I say anything, I've had one a couple of more too many to drink. So,
10:1410 minutes, 14 secondslike anything I say Yeah.
10:1710 minutes, 17 secondscannot be used against me in the court of law.
10:2310 minutes, 23 secondsBecause he might infect his religious siblings with his rebellious attitude,
10:2710 minutes, 27 secondsthe only way he was able to live under his parents' roof again was literally to sleep in it.
10:3610 minutes, 36 secondsSo, they'd much rather kind of quarantine me in some ways. And uh this was kind of my little on suite, you know, just
10:4410 minutes, 44 secondsbeing hidden away in the attic echoed the way Manny had had to hide his dark secret for years. Definitely a health hazard.
10:5310 minutes, 53 secondsBut his silence was about to end. Okay.
10:5710 minutes, 57 seconds[Music]
11:0011 minutesPlease don't turn your back on a kid you think is being sexually abused.
11:0411 minutes, 4 secondsThere was a thing called Operation Paradox going on. in confidence.
11:0711 minutes, 7 secondsThis is when an awakening happened in the world about child sexual abuse.
11:1111 minutes, 11 secondsA media campaign encouraging victims to report abuse was launched on TV. It was the catalyst for a massive change in the Wax family.
11:2211 minutes, 22 secondsI was sitting in my office and he was in his room upstairs because if you can't face it, how will they?
11:3011 minutes, 30 secondsAnd he heard it and I'd heard it already a few times and he came down to me and told me what had happened. just he never didn't tell me any details, just
11:3811 minutes, 38 secondssomething happened to him. Should we report it or he wants to report it? I was shocked. Of course, I was shocked. I felt really, really bad about it because I felt I'd let him down.
11:4911 minutes, 49 secondsAnd then came with it a level of feeling helpless and feeling very
11:5611 minutes, 56 secondssad that such a thing had happened on my watch. damage. Manny's karate teacher was David Cyprus,
12:0512 minutes, 5 secondsan Orthodox Jew officially employed by the Yeshiva Center as a security guard.
12:1012 minutes, 10 secondsThere was one time during a karate class I did something wrong. He took me around the back and told me I had a choice of doing one of two things. One thing was
12:1912 minutes, 19 secondssome impossible thing to do, and the other thing was to drop my pants and run around the yard half naked. I felt I had no choice but to do the other. So, I ran
12:2712 minutes, 27 secondsaround the yard without my pants on while he stood and watched.
12:3212 minutes, 32 secondsYou got to live with this uh most personal secret for decades. I don't think people can
12:4012 minutes, 40 secondsreally understand that, comprehend it fully unless you have experienced that yourself.
12:4712 minutes, 47 secondsWe rang up the police straight away and I went with him and we both made statements.
12:5212 minutes, 52 secondsManny told me that his whole class had known about the abuse and in fact he suffered doubly because they used to tease him about it.
12:5912 minutes, 59 secondsI used to walk past there used to stand there doing security. He would stand there and just smirk at me. Used to walk
13:0613 minutes, 6 secondspast there and I used to catch eyes with him sometimes and he used to stand there just like we both know what I did and what
13:1413 minutes, 14 secondshappened and I got away with it. That's the kind that's the message I was getting. I used to be so angry
13:2113 minutes, 21 secondsand it sometimes got worse. Occasionally I had to walk inside the yeshiva synagogue for my brother's bar mitzvah.
13:3113 minutes, 31 secondsWho was the person standing there who technically needed to authorize my entry? My tormentor.
13:3813 minutes, 38 secondsBolstered by his police statement and concerned his abuser had easy access to pray on other children, Manny had the
13:4613 minutes, 46 secondsfirst of several exchanges with the head rabbi of Kabad in Melbourne. I mean, I think in many ways, Rabbi Grona is the
13:5413 minutes, 54 secondsequivalent of an archbishop. I was very happy at least that I was able to muster the the the courage to go and confront
14:0214 minutes, 2 secondshim about this specifically. And Rabbi Grona said to me that we're addressing it. we're dealing with it. He's um he's
14:0914 minutes, 9 secondsgetting psychological help. Uh we're looking after him. Please just keep this quiet." And I said to him, "Rabbi
14:1714 minutes, 17 secondsGroner, can you assure me that he's not reaffending now or that he will not reaffend with all the access that he has now?" And he said to me, "No, I can't."
14:2714 minutes, 27 secondsPolice questioned David Cyprus who denied the allegations. It was Manny's word against his. Without further
14:3414 minutes, 34 secondsevidence, the police could take no further action. The case went cold.
14:4114 minutes, 41 seconds[Music]
14:4414 minutes, 44 secondsManny got married, had three kids, and moved to Canberra to work as a government bureaucrat. He became president of the Jewish community there.
14:5414 minutes, 54 secondsBut his scars remained.
14:5614 minutes, 56 seconds[Music]
15:0015 minutesBut Manny wasn't the only alleged victim of child sexual abuse at Yeshiva College. In the early 1990s, David
15:0715 minutes, 7 secondsKramer, an Orthodox teacher, was accused of molesting pupils while some officials were alleged to have covered it up.
15:1515 minutes, 15 secondsEveryone knew about Rabbi Kramer. He didn't abuse me, but he was a former teacher of mine.
15:2115 minutes, 21 secondsOnce I remember one of my sons came running like crazy. I was in a laundry and they came and told me Ima
15:3015 minutes, 30 secondseverybody's talking about KMA everybody's saying KMA is doing this and did that. That's how I would slowly find out.
15:4115 minutes, 41 secondsDavid Kramer's abuse became so widely known that in 1992 when Rabbi Abraham Glick was still principal of Yeshiva College, Kramer fled the country.
15:5315 minutes, 53 secondsIn fact, the yeshiva center offered to pay for him to leave.
15:5815 minutes, 58 secondsKramer fled to America where he was jailed in 2008 for sodomizing a boy at a synagogue camp.
16:0616 minutes, 6 secondsThe fact that Kramer managed to leave the country and was unable to be able to to commit his crimes again in the United
16:1516 minutes, 15 secondsStates, that that's that's all you need to say to show that what took place was a disaster. Anybody that knew and could have stopped in living in Australia has
16:2416 minutes, 24 secondsgot blood on their hands. It's as simple as that. Including me. I'm not denying that.
16:3016 minutes, 30 secondsZafana along with many parents and staff were aware of the allegations against Kramer, but didn't act in fear of the
16:3816 minutes, 38 secondsancient law of Msira, a code of silence to ensure that Jews deal with conflicts inhouse.
16:4616 minutes, 46 secondsMsira is the dobbing in. And then the punishment for Msira was excommunication. Yes. And worse.
16:5416 minutes, 54 secondsMasira was introduced thousands of years ago when turning a fellow Jew over to Gentile authorities was tantamount to a death sentence.
17:0517 minutes, 5 secondsAlthough the last known killing occurred hundreds of years ago, some still fear that washing Jewish laundry in public will stoke the fires of anti-semitism.
17:1617 minutes, 16 secondsA person that does mass, he's called a mosso. Anybody can come and kill this guy in principle. Going to the police
17:2417 minutes, 24 secondswithout permission or something like it could make you liable to be killed. Now,
17:2917 minutes, 29 secondsI'm not saying at the moment that anyone is I'm I'm not in fear of my life, but that's the sort of gravity with which it's regarded.
17:3717 minutes, 37 secondsWhen David Kramer's release from an American prison was looming in 2011,
17:4217 minutes, 42 secondsVictoria police opened proceedings to extradite him.
17:4817 minutes, 48 secondsBut investigators were confronted by a community enveloped in a code of silence.
17:5517 minutes, 55 secondsI wrote a front page story back in June 2011 saying that police were trying to breach the wall of silence surrounding
18:0318 minutes, 3 secondsalleged sexual assaults uh that had occurred at Yeshiva College.
18:0718 minutes, 7 secondsAlthough there were public statements from Jewish community organizations stressing that the prohibitions of miser did not apply, people whom I spoke to
18:1618 minutes, 16 secondsfrom within the yeshiva commu community off the record said that they felt that there was a strong reluctance to go to
18:2418 minutes, 24 secondssecular authorities to go to the media to go to the police.
18:2918 minutes, 29 secondsManny read Juel Toppsfield's article in mid 2011 revealing that David Kramer may be extradited from America to face
18:3718 minutes, 37 secondsmultiple charges of sexual abuse at Yeshiva College. I was absolutely gobsmacked that I was seeing this in in in the mainstream media. And what it
18:4718 minutes, 47 secondstold me was, okay, I I this is my opportunity now. I knew it wasn't about David Kramer. I knew that this was a much broader issue. And I called the police who were investigating this case.
18:5818 minutes, 58 secondsI was completely crying on the phone talking to him, not believing what he was telling me that they were opening all the cases of abuse at Yeshiva.
19:0719 minutes, 7 secondsManny's own abuser, David Cyprus, was still at large.
19:1219 minutes, 12 secondsManny believed the only way he could get justice, not just for himself, but for other victims, was to go public despite
19:2019 minutes, 20 secondsthe consequences. I did everything that I could within my power to pursue justice privately. I went to the police
19:2919 minutes, 29 secondsin 96. I went to Raona on several occasions and I got nowhere. What else should I have done?
19:3719 minutes, 37 secondsI felt that if I go public with my story then this will be a game changer.
19:4319 minutes, 43 secondsSo I called Juel Topsfield from the age and I said uh you know I want to speak to you in confidence. Can you guarantee me? And she said yes. I told him my
19:5219 minutes, 52 secondsstory and he said he uh was a high-profile member of the community and he felt that by coming forward and saying I was a
19:5919 minutes, 59 secondsvictim of sexual abuse it may encourage other people uh to come forward.
20:0520 minutes, 5 secondsManny's mother who cannot show her hair in public as an Orthodox married woman runs a wig shop. She was against him
20:1320 minutes, 13 secondsgoing public because it could ostracize the family from the Kabad community. I was the president of woman of kabad
20:2120 minutes, 21 secondsmovement in Melbourne. I didn't want all this. I didn't know how far it go it's going to go. Really,
20:2920 minutes, 29 secondsit wouldn't have been easy to to see your son um later your husband taking on people, her friends and her community.
20:3920 minutes, 39 secondsI didn't realize what he meant. I thought he meant killing some people openly. That's all I thought he meant. Before any more victims come forward. Absolutely.
20:4720 minutes, 47 secondsI didn't think media and all that sort of stuff. And I remember then I couldn't sleep the whole night and uh uh woke up very early
20:5320 minutes, 53 secondsin the morning and the article was published and basically all hell broke loose after that.
21:0121 minutes, 1 secondI was getting inundated with Facebook messages, emails, phone calls, texts from all over the world. It was just
21:1021 minutes, 10 secondsastounding. Um and what was interesting you know I had many victims contacting me even that day
21:1721 minutes, 17 secondson Friday and uh just telling me their own stories when I saw this article about money and
21:2521 minutes, 25 secondsabout all this it was like a boom I felt wa what's next
21:3421 minutes, 34 secondsnext was a brutal backlash the quickest and crulest appeared on social media
21:4221 minutes, 42 secondsIt's about time someone took action against Manny's cavalier tactics.
21:4521 minutes, 45 secondsZafonia is a person who spits in the well from which he drinks. He and Manny want to destroy Yeshiva.
21:5121 minutes, 51 secondsManny is not after justice. He's after revenge. This is a poem and anyone associated with him is as guilty as he is. There was a a tremendous sense of
21:5921 minutes, 59 secondsshock, not just because we were talking about child abuse within the Jewish community in the first place, but simply because it had broken in the age, which
22:0722 minutes, 7 secondsisn't known to be the best friend of the Jewish community. And the question was after the time, why is Manny gone to the age? Why would he try and wash our dirty
22:1422 minutes, 14 secondslinen in public in a newspaper that really won't be that sympathetic? There were many people from within the Jewish community that said that it was
22:2222 minutes, 22 secondsfantastic that Manny had come and had told his story and that this would really assist. And I think the police
22:2822 minutes, 28 secondswere also uh grateful to Manny in many ways because it did and in court it would later came out that in fact a lot of other victims had come forward.
22:3822 minutes, 38 secondsThe fact that people in the Orthodox community actually thought we should accept that this has gone on, we shouldn't report it. It's not
22:4522 minutes, 45 secondsnewsworthy. People should just accept that they are being abused or that they have been abused. They should just shut up about it because it's what happens.
22:5522 minutes, 55 secondsThe backlash also had huge ramifications for Manny's parents.
23:0223 minutes, 2 secondsThe wicket came out in the age, the rabbi of the synagogue. He started going through, if you don't listen to the rabbis, we have means at our disposal.
23:1223 minutes, 12 secondsAnd he started going through enumerating the different levels of excommunication which there are. Not being given things in the synagogue,
23:1923 minutes, 19 secondsnot being allowed to join a minion, to join a quorum, no one being allowed to talk to you. There's a whole different bunch of levels. I walked out then after
23:2823 minutes, 28 secondsa few minutes of this sermon and about six or seven women also walked out. The women were stronger than the men.
23:3723 minutes, 37 secondsMany friends have become very ambivalent. Most people wouldn't want to be seen talking with me in public.
23:4323 minutes, 43 secondsThere's only very few people that will talk to me in public in the synagogue. Now,
23:4823 minutes, 48 secondsit's a problem. I feel slowly slowly my friends going down and down and down.
23:5323 minutes, 53 secondsI mean, even her friends, it's because she's supporting me for a while there. She was more ambivalent.
23:5923 minutes, 59 secondsEven if they're good friends, some of them, but the husbands are funny with SWA. So, it's a problem. It is a big problem for me.
24:0924 minutes, 9 secondsAnd I didn't mean to do it to her.
24:1524 minutes, 15 secondsI wanted to give them so cross the community anyway and you're going to have trouble getting your
24:2324 minutes, 23 secondschildren married. Let's be very clear about that.
24:2624 minutes, 26 secondsThere would be families that would wipe our family off and would not allow the child to go out with their son. They would not approve of it because of
24:3424 minutes, 34 secondseverything that's happened. Even within the Wex family, some of the 17 children are critical of Manny and Zafana's campaign.
24:4224 minutes, 42 secondsWhat's he hurt the most are probably the lack of support from many family members. I think unfortunately it has affected the relationship with some of the kids that are not on the same page with us.
24:5424 minutes, 54 secondsThe more uh religious and observant a family member is, the less they are
25:0225 minutes, 2 secondssupportive. And that's been a very telling uh situation for me.
25:0625 minutes, 6 secondsIt hasn't made a complete break. Maybe not even a severe break, but it's it it's it's an elephant in the room. One
25:1625 minutes, 16 secondsbrother goes public in a fivepage tirade on social media. He questions Manny and Zafana's motives, claiming they've
25:2525 minutes, 25 secondshijacked the testimonies of Jewish abuse victims for their own agendas.
25:3025 minutes, 30 secondsDespite the chorus of criticism, Manny remains focused on the cause.
25:3625 minutes, 36 secondsI was working at that time a ridiculous probably 16 hours a day on these types of issues. It was just out of control.
25:4425 minutes, 44 secondsThat's when I realized that it was beyond just me personally. That's when I started talking to some people and I I
25:5225 minutes, 52 secondsrealized I need to establish an organization which is dedicated to this issue. And that's where TEDC uh which means justice in Hebrew came into life.
26:0126 minutes, 1 secondToday is in contact with almost 50 Jewish victims of institutional abuse.
26:0726 minutes, 7 secondsAbout 30 of them allegedly from Kabad organizations across Australia. The majority from the Yeshiva Center in Melbourne.
26:1426 minutes, 14 secondsIt needed to be beyond an individual.
26:1726 minutes, 17 secondsWasn't a Manny wax thing. It was Jewish community issue and needed to be addressed as such. It wasn't just a yeshiva issue. It was much broader than that.
26:2726 minutes, 27 secondsIn fact, several other Jewish organizations have been embroiled in the scandal. Some launched inquiries.
26:3626 minutes, 36 secondsKabad did not.
26:3926 minutes, 39 secondsYeshiva supporters went on the offensive, accusing many of running an anti-religious vendetta against them.
26:4926 minutes, 49 seconds[Music]
26:5426 minutes, 54 secondsinvolved. Please follow me.
26:5726 minutes, 57 secondsThree times a day, you pray together in the synagogue or wherever it is. You pray with a quorum. Now, because of the unpleasant feelings that I have in the
27:0627 minutes, 6 secondssynagogue, it was I didn't realize actually till I stopped how much it was actually affecting me.
27:1227 minutes, 12 secondsI go only on the Sabbath now to keep my foot in the door and so that I'm not stopping completely. But during the week, I pray at home. It's very highly unusual.
27:2227 minutes, 22 secondsMy wife doesn't even like people to know that I'm doing it, but I'm not embarrassed about it.
27:2827 minutes, 28 secondsThe Jewish tradition, as you do, learn with people together. That's what I had with two people essentially. And both of them stopped eventually.
27:3627 minutes, 36 secondsWe started learning on Shabas morning together. That's true. I love it.
27:4027 minutes, 40 secondsHe asked, "Am I good to learn with?" He said, "Very good to learn with." All of a sudden, he was surprised. I know so much.
27:4827 minutes, 48 secondsInstead of backing down, Manny and his father further publicized their allegations of abuse and cover-ups at Yeshiva in their submission to the
27:5627 minutes, 56 secondsVictorian Parliamentary Inquiry into child abuse. Take your time, Manny.
28:0228 minutes, 2 secondsPeople often think about the toll on the victims, but there is an incredible toll that the victim's families
28:1028 minutes, 10 secondsalso also have to pay.
28:1928 minutes, 19 seconds[Music]
28:2428 minutes, 24 secondsI would like to take this opportunity to also publicly thank and acknowledge the unequivocal support of my parents.
28:3728 minutes, 37 secondsNow, I should point out to you, I only got involved in this thing really, not because he's my son. I got dragged into it because he went public. If he would have asked me beforehand, I would have
28:4528 minutes, 45 secondshad trepidation because I would have known what's coming. And I'm glad he didn't ask me because I believe his position of coming public has been
28:5328 minutes, 53 secondscompletely vindicated by the number of people that have come forward. In just talking to the police privately and having it all covered up and quiet,
29:0229 minutes, 2 secondsthat's exactly what everybody wanted to happen here. And my son broke that.
29:0629 minutes, 6 secondsThat's been very annoying to some people. Good.
29:1029 minutes, 10 secondsGood on you. No, you're talking. Despite allegations of exploiting his abuse to promote his media profile, Manny
29:1729 minutes, 17 secondscontinues campaigning inside and outside the Jewish community.
29:2229 minutes, 22 secondsAbsolutely no one is above the law. Not priests, not rabbis, not imams, nor
29:2929 minutes, 29 secondsanyone else in positions of power or authority. We must ensure that what has happened once will never happen again.
29:3729 minutes, 37 secondsWe must stand up as a community together and say loud and clear, enough. No more silence. Thank you.
29:4629 minutes, 46 secondsThere is a sense in some quarters within the community that Manny is a community personality who was always looking for a
29:5429 minutes, 54 secondsplatform. And with the child abuse issue and having been a victim himself, he has certainly found it and is now making the
30:0230 minutes, 2 secondsmost of it. And it's no longer about uh just the victims. It's about the Manny Wax show. And that is certainly how it's referred to in some quarters.
30:1330 minutes, 13 secondsNot long ago, Friday nights at the Wax family was a full house celebrating the Sabbath. More. More.
30:2230 minutes, 22 secondsNow push it straight. Come in. Yeah. Okay. Don't push.
30:2730 minutes, 27 secondsNow it's a tiny affair. Just the parents and Sheney, their youngest daughter, still living at home.
30:3630 minutes, 36 secondsYou know, I used to have almost every Friday night my friends on Sh I didn't
30:4330 minutes, 43 secondsinvite already 6 months I didn't invite anybody anybody. I don't feel like inviting anybody.
30:5030 minutes, 50 secondsIn contrast, Manny has severed ties to Orthodoxy but remains connected to his Jewish culture.
30:5730 minutes, 57 secondsPersonally, I don't have any issue in driving on on on the Sabbath and uh I do so pretty much every week.
31:0531 minutes, 5 secondsHe and his friends still celebrate the Sabbath, albeit with a modern twist.
31:2131 minutes, 21 seconds[Music]
31:2631 minutes, 26 secondsMy destiny.
31:2831 minutes, 28 seconds[Applause]
31:3231 minutes, 32 seconds[Music]
31:4431 minutes, 44 secondsAs far as being invited to weddings,
31:4631 minutes, 46 secondslast 30 years we've invited them to our bar mitzvah, our weddings and everything like that. That's stopped. So there's no more weddings anymore. almost none.
31:5631 minutes, 56 secondsProbably bothers my wife more than me.
31:5731 minutes, 57 secondsI'm focused on what's got to happen here. He says he's strong, but I'll tell you,
32:0332 minutes, 3 secondshe doesn't sleep as he used to sleep. He gets up, he said, "Oh, I don't understand why I didn't sleep. Um, he
32:1032 minutes, 10 secondsdoesn't have the same appetite used to have." So, something is going on.
32:1632 minutes, 16 secondsBelieve me, I know it's healthy enough.
32:2232 minutes, 22 secondsAlmost 2 years after Manny's front page story rocked the Jewish community, the law was closing in on David Cyprus, the
32:2932 minutes, 29 secondsformer security guard at the Yeshiva Center.
32:3332 minutes, 33 secondsAround the same time, David Kramer, who fled to America, was facing multiple charges of sexual abuse at Yeshiva
32:4032 minutes, 40 secondsCollege. Manny attends Kramer's trial as leader of Sedic and on behalf of the four victims who aren't prepared to go public.
32:5032 minutes, 50 secondsDavid Kramer case, it's the first case.
32:5332 minutes, 53 secondsSo, it was always going to be a test to see where everyone stands. So, there's added element of a first.
33:0033 minutesDavid Kramer, you are to be sentenced for five charges of indecent assault and one charge of indecent act with a child
33:0933 minutes, 9 secondsunder 16. On charge one to 9 months imprisonment. On charge two to 9 months
33:1633 minutes, 16 secondsimprisonment. on charge three to nine months in prison.
33:2133 minutes, 21 secondsAustralian Jewish news inside Australia's only national Jewish newspaper. The scandal is headline news.
33:2933 minutes, 29 secondsAdam, I've just had a statement from the college. Yeshiva College sincerely regrets and unreservedly apologizes for
33:3633 minutes, 36 secondsnot informing the police at the time of the allegations arose. If any allegations were to arise today, they would be immediately reported to the police and the relevant authorities. But
33:4433 minutes, 44 secondsit's a step forward on what happened when the allegations first arose.
33:5033 minutes, 50 secondsBut questions remained over Rabbi Glick's failure to report Kramer to police when the allegations first arose.
33:5833 minutes, 58 secondsIn court, police said their investigators encountered a culture of coverup. How was it?
34:0634 minutes, 6 secondsGood. It was all right. You haven't heard anything? Did you What? You haven't heard anything?
34:1134 minutes, 11 secondsNothing. Nothing. Tell me what happened first.
34:1434 minutes, 14 secondsUm, so he got he got 3 years and 4 months in jail. Okay, that's not too bad.
34:1934 minutes, 19 secondsIt's not too bad, but the problem is that he's not going to serve. It's only only three and a half years or 3 years and 4 months. And out of that, only 18 months in jail.
34:2834 minutes, 28 secondsThe rest is um on parole. Wow. Anybody from Yeshiva came? No. No one?
34:3534 minutes, 35 secondsNo. One of the victims I saw was there, but that's it.
34:3934 minutes, 39 secondsReally? It's hard. It's hard but God will help.
34:4534 minutes, 45 secondsI know a lot of people thinking now what's going on is not right but Yeshiva do is doing at the moment
34:5434 minutes, 54 secondsand is a to me is a hero. I look up to him. Yes.
35:0535 minutes, 5 secondsManny regularly seeks help to cope with the mounting cases of abuse landing on his desk as well as the trauma of his own experience.
35:1435 minutes, 14 secondsIt's just left me very emotional in the courtroom. Um
35:2135 minutes, 21 secondsI guess even and and even now it's it's just it took a toll on me. It's uh absolutely normal
35:3035 minutes, 30 secondswhen one sees people subject to unreasonable emotional experience and they don't show an emotional response.
35:3835 minutes, 38 secondsAny professional would be weary as to what was to come.
35:4135 minutes, 41 secondsAnd then just listen to the description of what actually was going on when they were reading the the the charges and and
35:4835 minutes, 48 secondsthe offenses and uh and the fact that the children I mean I didn't even realize that some of the victims were calling out for help. It's just uh
35:5735 minutes, 57 secondsastounding for me to to to
36:0036 minutes[Music]
36:0236 minutes, 2 secondshear that. I guess this was close to home in a sense that people very close to me and
36:1636 minutes, 16 seconds[Music]
36:1736 minutes, 17 secondsKramer's sentencing makes that night's news.
36:2036 minutes, 20 secondsI wish he got more because we don't feel he got the punishment.
36:2436 minutes, 24 secondsI know. We know it's not what he deserves.
36:2636 minutes, 26 secondsPolice about child sex abuse complaints against a teacher. 52-year-old David Kramer pleaded guilty to abusing four
36:3336 minutes, 33 secondsboys at the Yesesha College Primary School between 1989 and 1992. Today he was sentenced to 3 years and 4 months in jail.
36:4336 minutes, 43 secondsYeshiva College sincerely regrets and unreservedly apologizes for not police at the time the allegations arose. Has already been in custody.
36:5636 minutes, 56 secondssaw you on television last night. Well done. Thank you so much. Thank you.
37:0137 minutes, 1 secondWith Praman now in jail, Manny is stealing himself for the trial of his own alleged abuser, David Cyprus.
37:0937 minutes, 9 secondsWhat I thought yesterday was um I was glad that I had that opportunity because it makes me feel like I'm preparing myself for when my time will come. I
37:1937 minutes, 19 secondsknow it's going to be a grueling experience going through that core process and having to relive each and every moment because you're going to get
37:2637 minutes, 26 secondscross-examined and your credibility is going to be attacked. I'm just going to have to fearlessly stand up and say the truth what happened.
37:3537 minutes, 35 secondsWhile yeshiva apologizes for the Kramer scandal, some of those involved in covering it up remain in their posts.
37:4337 minutes, 43 secondsEven though yeshiva claims it has best practice in child safety today for Manny and Zafana it's a hollow apology.
37:5337 minutes, 53 secondsThey've claimed that they've now got great policies and procedures in place.
37:5637 minutes, 56 secondsGreat. Tick in the box. If they were honest about getting or providing support and genuinely care about the welfare of the
38:0438 minutes, 4 secondsvictims, they would be more proactive just like they're proactive about issues of religion.
38:1138 minutes, 11 secondsHave they sent anyone to go to any of the victims to see how they're doing to apologize directly to them? Have they ever done anything?
38:2138 minutes, 21 secondsToday, Zafana is facing similar stonewalling. On the anniversary of his father's death, it is custom that his
38:2838 minutes, 28 secondsson should lead the prayers inside synagogue.
38:3138 minutes, 31 secondsI've sent two emails already about this and they haven't answered me yet. And I don't know what's going to happen. As
38:3838 minutes, 38 secondsfar as getting called up goes, I'm going to stay in the synagogue. Even if I don't get called up, let them start up with dead people if that's what they want. I set up with my father. My
38:4738 minutes, 47 secondsfather's a picture of him on the wall there. He was learning at the MIT of Berlin in the engineering school when
38:5438 minutes, 54 secondsHitler came to power. But he stayed there even he knew what's going on till he got his degree. He said, "This guy, I
39:0239 minutes, 2 secondsam not going to be forced out because of this." And I'm adopting some of that same principle here. But unlike his
39:0839 minutes, 8 secondsfather, Zafana left the secular world 40 years ago and joined the Kabad movement.
39:1639 minutes, 16 secondsIronically, Manny has done the reverse. Manny is not in the community anymore.
39:2139 minutes, 21 secondsHe's quite understandably outside of the community now. So on the one hand, that gives him complete freedom. That means visa v the
39:2939 minutes, 29 secondscommunity. He doesn't care what they say. Okay. On the internet, he gets rubbished by some people that are well and truly within the community. In some cases, we know who they are. They can
39:3839 minutes, 38 secondsuse swear words. They can absolutely do everything which is against Jewish law,
39:4539 minutes, 45 secondslying and and and denigrating the family and him.
39:4939 minutes, 49 secondsBut, okay, he's not he doesn't see it every day. He doesn't meet these people.
39:5239 minutes, 52 secondsDoesn't bother him. I'm the one that's meeting it. It's it's at the hard edge, the cold face. Okay, I'm going to sh see you later.
40:0140 minutes, 1 secondYou don't have to wait for me. Don't wait for me. You
40:0940 minutes, 9 secondsInside the synagogue, Zafana's demands to lead prayers are being refused.
40:1640 minutes, 16 secondsA funny thing happened to do with me not being allowed to govern Mary to pray to lead the prayers for the evening service. Normally the person that's
40:2340 minutes, 23 secondsleading the prayers goes and stands there. What is all this crap about? Jump in the lake. What did he say?
40:3240 minutes, 32 secondsWhat's all this crap about? It's funny cuz his son is a major supporter on Facebook of my son. Anyway, so three of
40:3940 minutes, 39 secondsthem stood there for half an hour before the evening service started just so that I to make sure even though they told me I couldn't do it and not that I wasn't
40:4740 minutes, 47 secondsgoing to go and seize it. Do you understand the dynamics of what's going on here? I hope you do.
40:5540 minutes, 55 seconds[Music]
40:5840 minutes, 58 secondsI find it funny when we were standing outside and people people start up. It was just so funny. He thought there was going to be a punch guy. He thought maybe people were punching. You were worried.
41:0841 minutes, 8 secondsI thought there's a certain person here in the He says when he says that come bring it on. Come get me, please. But you got to laugh.
41:1741 minutes, 17 secondsYou got to It's the only way to That's why I've got to I've got this problem of laughing about it. It's it's black humor. But what else can you do?
41:2441 minutes, 24 secondsI'm all serious about the whole thing.
41:2641 minutes, 26 secondsIt's too much for me. It's much too much.
41:3041 minutes, 30 secondsWhat's the word? betrayed by the community. Yeah, I think she does. Uh yeah, yeah, yeah.
41:3941 minutes, 39 secondsSurely must be easier to just stand up and just say, you know what, enough.
41:4241 minutes, 42 secondsJust remove the hat and shave the beard and just you know what, just just go back to how things were.
41:5041 minutes, 50 secondsHe's not doing that.
41:5741 minutes, 57 secondsIt hasn't weakened my faith at all. If anything, it's strengthened my faith because I see things that are written in
42:0442 minutes, 4 secondsthe prophets where the prophet is telling the Jews, "Stop with the hypocrisy. Stop bringing sacrifices.
42:1042 minutes, 10 secondsStop talking and praying so much when you're doing the wrong thing. Just start doing the right thing."
42:1842 minutes, 18 secondsIt is the leadup to Yam Kipur, Judaism's holiest day, when Jews go to synagogue for prayers, which culminate in the
42:2642 minutes, 26 secondsblowing of the chauffar, the ram's horn. It is a clarion call for them to repent.
42:3742 minutes, 37 secondson Yamipur, the day of atonement, when everybody makes confession. If there are people in synagogues
42:4442 minutes, 44 secondsum confessing to the Almighty for being engaged in abuse or being engaged in covering up of abuse, it's not enough.
42:5542 minutes, 55 secondsThey must speak to their victims and they must ask their victims um um forgiveness.
43:0543 minutes, 5 secondsAt this time of atonement, Rabbi Gutnik issues a blistering public rebuke of the culture of cover up.
43:1243 minutes, 12 secondsI wish to be frank. For whatever reason,
43:1543 minutes, 15 secondsa culture of cover up, often couched in religious terms, pervaded our thinking and actions. It was simply wrong.
43:2143 minutes, 21 secondsThis is the holiest day of the year when we're atoning for our sins. and he was pointing out one of the most heinous sins and telling people that they had to
43:2843 minutes, 28 secondsrealize that this had happened within our own community and that they couldn't be silent. They had to speak out and they had to come forward.
43:3643 minutes, 36 secondsWe are no different than any other community. What should make us different is how we handle it.
43:4443 minutes, 44 secondsMeanwhile, Zafana has made a significant decision. I'm not going into yeshiva anymore. Now,
43:5143 minutes, 51 secondsby the way, I'm just I'm not going there now, even on chabas. So, so my wife doesn't like me saying that, but I mean that that's that's it. I don't need to put up with this nonsense anymore. Ha.
44:0044 minutesThese are the facts of life. There's no reason why people shouldn't. No, there is facts of life.
44:0544 minutes, 5 secondsYeah. Well, this is a fact of life which doesn't have to be covered. There's nothing ha there is nothing embarrassing in this for me. I don't care.
44:1244 minutes, 12 secondsThere is nothing embarrassing. I am not the one to be embarrassed. When I come to wherever I come after this life, if I
44:1944 minutes, 19 secondshave to give in front of the in front of the heavenly court, when I have to give din, when I have to give account of my actions, that is the least of my
44:2844 minutes, 28 secondsworries. He won't even ask me. I have strong faith that he won't ask me why I didn't dunul. With Yam Kapor failing to
44:3644 minutes, 36 secondsgenerate remorse, Zafana is becoming increasingly estranged from the Kabad community
44:4344 minutes, 43 secondsand his son's long awaited day in court is imminent. It's not about the length of the sentence. It's more about the
44:4944 minutes, 49 secondsfact that he's found guilty of each of the acts that I can remember that he did to me. Manny's revelations prompted over
44:5944 minutes, 59 secondsa dozen other alleged victims of David Cyprus to come forward and police pressed multiple charges against the former security guard and karate teacher.
45:1145 minutes, 11 secondsBut on the eve of the trial, a call from the Office of Public Prosecutions stuns Manny. Manny speaking.
45:1945 minutes, 19 secondsHi Manny here from the OTP. Hi.
45:2345 minutes, 23 secondsGood. What's happening? Yeah, look, good news. Um, he's going to plead to the charges we discussed yesterday.
45:3045 minutes, 30 secondsOh, that's amazing.
45:3245 minutes, 32 secondsUm, so it's really we're really happy with that result. We're thrilled. He's going to do that at midday today. Wow.
45:4145 minutes, 41 secondsWow. Oh my god. I got to call my wife.
45:4545 minutes, 45 secondsDavid Cyprus has accepted a plea bargain deal in relation to my case. I don't have to go through a trial. um that have to be cross-examined.
45:5645 minutes, 56 secondsUh I'm I'm basically stunned really. Wow. It's amazing.
46:0446 minutes, 4 secondsIt's amazing.
46:0746 minutes, 7 secondsCan't think straight about anything else. I just want to see him in the courtroom pleading guilty. That's all I want to see um at this stage anyway. So,
46:1746 minutes, 17 secondsand I'm going to get that opportunity. That is just astounding. Wow. David Cypress has just pleaded guilty.
46:2646 minutes, 26 secondsYeah. Amazing. I'm on the way to court now. Thank you.
46:3446 minutes, 34 secondsI'm really, really happy. It's all your credit.
46:4346 minutes, 43 secondsI remember the shame. I remember the guilt. I remember the anger. I remember the taunts and the teasing. I remember the pain and suffering.
46:5146 minutes, 51 seconds[Music]
46:5346 minutes, 53 secondsIn court, the magistrate brands Rabbi Glick's testimony as unfathomable, and police accuse the college of protecting
47:0147 minutes, 1 secondDavid Cyprus. A former martial arts teacher and security guard at Melbourne's Yeshiva College has been jailed for 8 years for repeatedly
47:1047 minutes, 10 secondssexually abusing boys in his care. David Samuel Cyprus raped one boy five times and sexually abused eight others in a
47:1947 minutes, 19 secondsseries of incidents dating back to the 1980s.
47:2447 minutes, 24 secondsFirstly, obviously this is a monumental day for the Australian Jewish community uh and both also for myself personally.
47:3247 minutes, 32 secondsUh it's been a long journey. It's been decades coming. It's very very emotional. as a parent there's very
47:4047 minutes, 40 secondslittle we could have done but but you feel you didn't protect your kid so you know you have an element of guilt there
47:4847 minutes, 48 secondsso the fact of him getting some something back also then reduces that for me
47:5847 minutes, 58 secondsit is unacceptable that the majority of those who are still in the leadership position at yeshiva were in the same leadership positions over the last few
48:0648 minutes, 6 secondsdecades it is just unfathomable able and we will hold them to full account. Hey mate, Manny here. Just wanted to give
48:1548 minutes, 15 secondsyou some of the good news. Just come out of court and he's been sentenced. It was amazing to actually see it in person and I was definitely thinking about you,
48:2248 minutes, 22 secondsespecially when they uh read out the things relating to you. Good on you, mate. I'll speak to you later. Bye.
48:2848 minutes, 28 secondsSo, what I'm going to do is I I really want I want to go celebrate this a bit now. So, I'm going to have a beer somewhere. Good. Good. Good. Excellent. Excellent.
48:3648 minutes, 36 secondsWhile it is highly unusual for Kabad members to go into bars, today is making an exception.
48:4448 minutes, 44 secondsIt looks a little bit different than I remember. This is a a higher class bar, I would say, than what I was used to.
48:5248 minutes, 52 secondsHave you got anything a little bit uh more bitter or a bit stronger or something like that in taste? No, no, no, no. I mean, as a beer,
49:0149 minutes, 1 secondI cheers. I think it's about justice for those who covered up 100%.
49:1249 minutes, 12 seconds[Music]
49:1349 minutes, 13 secondsHi. Hi, man. Hey.
49:1749 minutes, 17 secondsHow was it? What's What's You don't know yet? The results I don't know. That's so good. You don't know. So, you got you got uh 8 years.
49:2549 minutes, 25 secondsWow. And 5 and a half years minimum. So,
49:2849 minutes, 28 secondsI mean, he'll be sitting jail for at least another 5 years. Wow. So good news what we expected.
49:3449 minutes, 34 secondsAbsolutely. Yeah. But it's it's a good end of what was expected. It's it's definitely and there was strong comments as well by the judge and did. So it's it's very good.
49:4349 minutes, 43 secondsAnybody from Shiva were there? No.
49:4649 minutes, 46 secondsThat's interesting. No. No. But it's interesting. There was no Shiva there. No. No one. No. That's interesting.
49:5149 minutes, 51 secondsThey didn't do anything wrong. What did they do wrong? I see is happy. I am happy. You got little glasses. I I have glasses.
49:5949 minutes, 59 secondsGlasses. Glasses. That's all right. I went into a pub the first time in 40 years today. Ka, that's what you bought. No, I didn't. Ha.
50:0850 minutes, 8 secondsNo, we had a beer there.
50:1150 minutes, 11 secondsIt was scary. It was scary. But it was scary all the way. Give me a bit more. I got a D.
50:2350 minutes, 23 secondsWhile Manny is savoring justice, Zafana is still grieving his exclusion from the community.
50:3150 minutes, 31 secondsI've lost friends of 30 years. That's it. Tough luck. I don't believe I'll ever go into the building again unless there's a major change which is very unlikely to occur.
50:4150 minutes, 41 secondsI didn't do anything wrong. Regardless of what people say,
50:4950 minutes, 49 secondsit's a joke. With Manny's perpetrator behind bars,
50:5650 minutes, 56 secondsother victims continue to come forward.
51:0051 minutesIn a tragic twist, a former relief teacher at Yeshiva College, charged with five counts of child sexual abuse, was
51:0851 minutes, 8 secondsfound dead in an apparent suicide just weeks before he was to face court.
51:1451 minutes, 14 secondsCritics accuse Manny and his supporters of having blood on their hands.
51:2051 minutes, 20 secondsThis is really too much. Everything she says at every stage it's too much. I can't.
51:2551 minutes, 25 secondsYeah, but you say at every stage that it's too much. Then it goes a bit further and it's too much. It's it's it's just Oh boy.
51:3251 minutes, 32 secondsYou're dealing with animals. Excuse me.
51:3651 minutes, 36 secondsIt's funny. Stop it. Stop it. I I don't know what what word to use.
51:4251 minutes, 42 secondsHighly misguided people or not everything you think you say. No. No. This one is important. Everything you say. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Okay.
51:4851 minutes, 48 secondsYou have to watch your mouth. I'm sorry.
51:5451 minutes, 54 secondsLast night I posted on Facebook, I am bitterly disappointed to share that my parents Savana and Kaya Wax have made
52:0252 minutes, 2 secondsthe difficult decision to sell their family home and relocate. Yeah, my father's losing sleep over it and it's affecting his health and and my mother
52:1052 minutes, 10 secondsas well. It's, you know, so I don't think they have a choice but leaving Australia.
52:1652 minutes, 16 secondsWe're going to Israel Israel.
52:2152 minutes, 21 secondsShe's got all her family there. So we and we have a place. But it's the truth. If I could go now, I would go now. Right now,
52:3052 minutes, 30 secondswe are selling the house. The house is on the market as of yesterday.
52:3552 minutes, 35 secondsThey're very upset. Of course, people have even made a comment on Facebook there today. I saw a comment now at the end of the day cuz someone said, "Ah, they were probably going to move away."
52:4252 minutes, 42 secondsNow, people just dismiss other people's feelings like that. They were going to move away. They're an el someone called us on Facebook now an elderly couple.
52:4952 minutes, 49 secondshigh. You'll be happy to hear that we're an elderly couple. It's the place where we brought up 17 kids, but we're now an elderly couple. So, they would have
52:5652 minutes, 56 secondswanted to downsize anyway. So, someone else wrote back, "My my parents right to the end, they wanted to stay in their own house. Thank you very much."
53:0453 minutes, 4 secondsNot yet. I wanted to go to live in Israel.
53:0953 minutes, 9 secondsEverybody knows I wouldn't rush this way. I would do it slowly with thinking.
53:1553 minutes, 15 secondsYou feel like you have to be kicked out of a place.
53:2153 minutes, 21 secondsIt's very sad that they feel that they will have to leave Australia.
53:2753 minutes, 27 secondsIt's not his community anymore. I feel uncomfortable looking like the same as these characters. I feel uncomfortable.
53:3553 minutes, 35 secondsIt's a uniform. I'm not part of that battalion anymore. Definitely not.
53:4253 minutes, 42 secondsThis is 24. So take from here and put in there.
53:5453 minutes, 54 secondsHi, this is her. I need to go to work.
53:5753 minutes, 57 secondsSo what time? Go get I'll go and get a bag. Huh? 3:15.
54:0554 minutes, 5 secondsI I'd like to take the photo. So I want a memory of a house. Smiling. A smile. Yeah.
54:1954 minutes, 19 secondsFor me, yeshiva and the community was all my life. Everything. I was part of it with my blood, with my soul,
54:2754 minutes, 27 secondseverything.
54:3154 minutes, 31 secondsEvery time another one of these rat bags gets arrested, the happier I am and makes it all worthwhile.
54:4154 minutes, 41 secondsNow it's chicken.
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