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Former AIPAC Member EXPOSES Zionism Myths - YouTube

Former AIPAC Member EXPOSES Zionism Myths - YouTube

Former AIPAC Member EXPOSES Zionism Myths
India & Global Left

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Former AIPAC member debunks Zionism: Must Watch on Israel-Palestine 

This is a clip from a full video with Rich Forer on his journey of transformation from being an AIPAC Zionist to a pro-Palestine activist. 
He also debunks propaganda that is generally spread among Jews. 
Full video: • A former Zionist AIPAC member debunks: Zio...


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0:00well, as you say, I was born in a fairly typical Jewish family. We were, we attended Reform synagogue
0:099 secondsand from the time I was probably five years old. till 14 years old. I attended both Sunday and Saturday school.
0:1616 secondsAnd of course, I grew up in Trenton, New Jersey, which is between Philadelphia and New York. So there was a large Jewish population. And there was a lot of a lot
0:2525 secondsof information from New York and Philadelphia about Jewish activities.
0:3030 secondsAnd I always recognized, from the time I was very young, I always noticed that Jewish people didn't use slur words.
0:4040 secondsto condemn other people, like black people, Puerto Ricans, or other people, whereas a lot of the the Christian kids,
0:4848 secondssome of whom were my friends, commonly used slurs. And that gave me a sense that maybe Jews are a little
0:5555 secondsmore or a little better than other people. Also, I was born in 1948, so I grew up you know within a
1:031 minute, 3 secondsdecade to 15 years after the Holocaust. And every Jewish, just about every Jewish family I knew
1:111 minute, 11 secondshad family members who had been killed in the Holocaust. And of course, in the 1950s, anti-Semitism was fairly
1:191 minute, 19 secondscommon in the United States. Like, for example, Jews were not allowed to join non-Jewish country clubs. Jews were
1:271 minute, 27 secondsnot welcome in a lot of places, and that's in the Northeast. Just imagine what it was like in the South and the Midwest of the United States. So I grew
1:351 minute, 35 secondsup. Oh, and another very important factor for me was when I was in elementary school, in public school.
1:441 minute, 44 secondsAnd and let let me point out that school prayer was not considered illegal until 1960. And I
1:511 minute, 51 secondsgraduated from from 6th grade in 1960. So up through 6th grade.
1:571 minute, 57 secondsWe had to say the Lord's Prayer, which most people consider a Christian prayer, even though it comes from the, I believe,
2:042 minutes, 4 secondsfrom Psalms in the Tanakh, the Old Testament. But what I really didn't like was my classes would have celebrations of Easter and Christmas,
2:152 minutes, 15 secondsand which of course would not be allowed now, but they never had celebrations of Passover. or any of the other Jewish holidays, Hanukkah, for example,
2:242 minutes, 24 secondswhich is not really a major Jewish holiday, but it coincided with Christians, Christmas. And so all that made me kind of maybe get the
2:332 minutes, 33 secondsfeeling that my society didn't really respect Jews very much. And so I grew up being very defensive about
2:412 minutes, 41 secondsJewish people and about later on about Israel. And after the 1967 Six Day War, when Israel defeated
2:502 minutes, 50 secondsEgypt, Syria, and Jordan, and took over the West Bank and Golan Heights,
2:562 minutes, 56 secondsI was very proud of what Israel had accomplished. But I always knew, in fact, I didn't just know it, I I felt it,
3:043 minutes, 4 secondsthat there would never be peace in the Middle East between Israel and its neighbors. And I didn't know why, but I used to hear that when I would be at
3:133 minutes, 13 secondssynagogue,as a kid, I used to hear the men talking about that a lot. And they would often say, well, the good news is that the Arabs never agree on anything.
3:233 minutes, 23 secondsAnd so the the Arabs are never united.
3:253 minutes, 25 secondsThen of course, Gamal Abdel Nasser came along in, I think, 1956, the leader of Egypt and the the charismatic
3:363 minutes, 36 secondspan-Arab leader, and he became a threat. Now, David Ben-Gurion, who was the prime minister of India,I'm sorry, of
3:433 minutes, 43 secondsIsrael and Israel's first prime minister and the leader of the Jewish Agency for many years before Israel's establishment
3:513 minutes, 51 secondsin 1948. David Ben-Gurion referred to Nasser as the Hitler of the Middle East. And when you're a young
3:583 minutes, 58 secondskid and you have relatives who who had relatives who were killed in the Holocaust, and you have
4:054 minutes, 5 secondsrelatives or friends of my parents who fought in World War II,
4:114 minutes, 11 secondsWhen you hear that Nasser's Hitler is the Middle East, just imagine what kind of images that conjures up in a young person's mind. Oh my God, the Arabs want
4:204 minutes, 20 secondsto do to the Jews what the Nazis almost did to the Jews and partially did to the Jews. So all of that reinforced my attachment to my Jewish identity. And
4:294 minutes, 29 secondsthen years go by and I was always defensive when people would would say something negative about Israel, I would
4:374 minutes, 37 secondsget upset and I would denied that what they were saying was true. I would say it was Arab or Palestinian propaganda. And I had
4:464 minutes, 46 secondsno basis for any of that, really. Then in probably the mid '90s, my identical twin brother, who's an Orthodox
4:544 minutes, 54 secondsJew and very, very, very anti-Palestinian,
5:005 minutesand and my guess is that he's a supporter of Itamar Ben-Gavir and Bezalel Smotrich, the two ultra-Orthodox ministers in the Netanyahu cabinet.
5:115 minutes, 11 secondsMy twin brother gave me a book that I had never heard of, but it was a bestseller called From Time Immemorial by
5:185 minutes, 18 secondsJoan Peters. And that book allegedly proved that Israel has always been in the right. It It basically
5:275 minutes, 27 secondssaid there is no such thing as a Palestinian people. Arabs from various parts of the Middle East moved to Palestine, to Israel. In order to
5:375 minutes, 37 secondsget higher paying jobs from kind Jewish landholders. And they're never. And you know, I can't remember
5:445 minutes, 44 secondseverything it said, but it turned out it was all garbage. And it was completely debunked, first of all, by Norman Finkelstein in the United States. But it
5:525 minutes, 52 secondswas also debunked completely by Zionist Jewish historians in the state of Israel. They referred to it as trash,
6:006 minutesutter propaganda, worthless. But I believed it all because it became my Bible. I believed it 'cause it gave me an argument to refute anything that anyone said that was critical of Israel.
6:116 minutes, 11 secondsSo in 2006, as some people may remember, Hezbollah conducted a cross-border raid into Israel
6:196 minutes, 19 secondsand killed three Israeli soldiers and abducted two. This was in July,
6:246 minutes, 24 seconds2006. I was very upset about that because three weeks earlier, Hamashad captured Israeli
6:316 minutes, 31 secondssoldier Gilad Shalit on the Israel-Gaza border. And I saw those two events as proof of an
6:406 minutes, 40 secondsArab world conspiracy to destroy the Jewish state. It became clear to me that the Arab world would not rest until they
6:476 minutes, 47 secondsthrew the Jews into the sea. I was convinced about that. And the day after his father's raid, Israel invaded Lebanon with immense force.
6:576 minutes, 57 secondsAnd I was very upset, but I supported the invasion. I thought it was necessary. So a couple of days go by, and I decided
7:057 minutes, 5 secondsI was gonna speak with two of my wisest friends, both of whom were not Jewish,
7:107 minutes, 10 secondsand both of whom had been somewhat critical of Israel in the past. But this time I thought they would realize the the
7:177 minutes, 17 secondsseverity of the situation, and they would realize that Israel really was only defending itself against anti-Semites.
7:257 minutes, 25 secondsSo I went to each of them individually and I talked to them and both of them blamed Israel for its disproportionate use of force against the people of
7:347 minutes, 34 secondsLebanon. And neither of them accepted my argument and I was devastated. And so I went home and I thought about it and I
7:427 minutes, 42 secondswent over each conversation trying to see, did I miss something?Did I misunderstand something?And my conclusion
7:497 minutes, 49 secondswas, no, I didn't miss anything, no, I didn't misunderstand anything. And only Jews can understand the suffering of our people. Maybe my dear friends, two of
7:587 minutes, 58 secondsthe most compassionate people I've ever met, maybe they're anti-Semites like all the other non-Jews, or most of the other non-Jews. So then a few days later,
8:068 minutes, 6 secondsduring this onslaught that Israel was conducting in Lebanon, I received a phone call, a rare
8:148 minutes, 14 secondsphone call from a friend of mine in New Jersey who I grew up with, and he rarely calls. And I knew he had studied the
8:228 minutes, 22 secondssubject of Israel and Palestine for many years, but he never made a big deal about it at all. He was very quiet about it.
8:298 minutes, 29 secondsAnd he was fairly quiet by nature anyway.
8:328 minutes, 32 secondsAnyway, he called to tell me that he was gonna be coming out west, and I was living in New Mexico at the time, and was gonna visit me. And I said, That's great.
8:428 minutes, 42 secondsAnd then by the way, the Arab world wants to kill all the Jews. And I went into a two-hour diatribe against the Arab world,
8:478 minutes, 47 secondsand he let me go. He rarely interrupted me, and he listened to me, and it was really over two hours.
8:548 minutes, 54 secondsOccasionally, he would interject a comment like, No, that's wrong.
9:009 minutesYou know, this is what's happening. But he rarely said anything, and he didn't argue with me. He didn't criticize me. At a certain point, he said, Why don't you
9:099 minutes, 9 secondsread books by these two Israeli professors, Baruch Kimmerling and Tanya Reinhard, both of whom were very respected, though I had never heard of
9:189 minutes, 18 secondsthem. And I thought to myself, you know what?Maybe I should read something. Maybe there's something I don't know. The only
9:249 minutes, 24 secondsbook I'd read was Joan Peters Trash. And yet I thought like like most of my Jewish friends today, and most of Israel's
9:319 minutes, 31 secondssupporters today, I thought I knew all there was to know. But because he gave me the space to question myself,
9:399 minutes, 39 secondsafter we hung up, I went online to Amazon and looked up books by Kimberling and Reinhardt. And when you do that, you see
9:469 minutes, 46 secondsother books on the same subjects. And I decided, I'll go to my library and see if I can find some of these books. My
9:539 minutes, 53 secondsstipulation was I only wrote down the names of books and the names of authors who were Jewish. I wasn't going to trust
10:0010 minutesthat a non-Jewish author could be honest or not anti-Semitic. This is how radical I was. So I went to the library,
10:0910 minutes, 9 secondsgot a few books, came home,
10:1210 minutes, 12 secondsThe next day I started reading, and maybe about a week after reading fairly uninteresting material that didn't really
10:1910 minutes, 19 secondsaddress my concerns that much, I started reading Norman Finkelstein's Beyond Chutzpah on the Misuse of
10:2710 minutes, 27 secondsAntisemitism and the Abuse of History. I had never heard of Finkelstein. My friend who had directed me to Kimberling and
10:3510 minutes, 35 secondsReinhardt years earlier had said thatJoan Peter's book was debunked by a Jewish professor who lived
10:4310 minutes, 43 secondsin New York, but he couldn't remember the name. And he was referring to Finkelstein. And I just said, oh, well,
10:5010 minutes, 50 secondsI don't believe that. The Jewish professor must have been confused, or maybe he's a self-hating Jew. So I started reading Finkelstein's book. And what happened was, I knew immediately that he was a brilliant man.
11:0211 minutes, 2 secondsAnd everything he said,His criticism was only directed towards Israel. There was no criticism of the
11:1011 minutes, 10 secondsPalestinian people at all, or the Arab side. And I was wondering, well, when's he gonna speak out about the Arabs?
11:1811 minutes, 18 secondsBut I couldn't put the book down because number one, I'd committed myself to really studying the history as objectively as I could. And number two, I
11:2511 minutes, 25 secondsrecognized in the first paragraph of the book that he was a brilliant man. Somehow I recognized that, so I kept reading
11:3311 minutes, 33 secondsplus,He documented all of his claims very meticulously. So his sources were organizations like Human Rights Watch,
11:4311 minutes, 43 secondsAmnesty International, B'Tselem, the Israeli human rights organization. And so I was reading and reading and reading,
11:5111 minutes, 51 secondsand as I was reading, I would. Go look online for the for the sources that he was citing in his book.
11:5911 minutes, 59 secondsSo I'd go to the to the papers that Amnesty International, for example, that they had written on the subject, and I would look for the quotes he had taken
12:0712 minutes, 7 secondsfrom them. I was hoping that I would find him taking the quotes out of context or changing a word
12:1612 minutes, 16 secondshere or there to misrepresent what the organization was saying, unfortunately.
12:2212 minutes, 22 secondssort of, at least from that prior point of view, he was, everything he said was impeccable. There was nothing that,
12:2912 minutes, 29 secondseverything, he was beyond reproach. So I continued reading and at a certain point I started, I was so absorbed in what I
12:3612 minutes, 36 secondswas reading that I allowed all the emotions that were going through me, I didn't resist at all. So I was going through shock at what I was reading. Oh
12:4412 minutes, 44 secondsmy God. I've supported Israel all these years. This is what Israel's doing. Oh my God. And then anger at Israel for misguiding me all my life and getting
12:5412 minutes, 54 secondsme to support the the maltreatment of Palestinians. Then my anger turned in on itself and I got angry
13:0113 minutes, 1 secondat me for being such a dupe and being so ignorant and never checking anything out. And then shame and embarrassment arose.
13:0913 minutes, 9 secondsAnd then finally, a great sorrow for the Palestinian people for all that they had been through.
13:1513 minutes, 15 secondsWell, first of all, I want to mention that I agree with Noam Chomsy that this propaganda stands on thin ground. That's one of the reasons why people become so
13:2413 minutes, 24 secondshysterical when they're confronted with the facts. Because they know, they they actually don't admit it, most people
13:3213 minutes, 32 secondsI've met. They don't admit that they've never studied the history, but deep down,
13:3513 minutes, 35 secondsthey know they haven't studied the history. So when you confront them with a revision and and a alteration of what they believe that
13:4413 minutes, 44 secondsproves that what they believe was completely wrong, they can actually become hysterical. It is a threat to their mortal identity. So So you mentioned the Barak peace proposal.
13:5513 minutes, 55 secondsWhich which refers to the 2000 Camp David Summit at the end of Bill Clinton's presidency. And yes, that is one of the
14:0314 minutes, 3 secondsmost egregious propaganda beliefs that has been.
14:1214 minutes, 12 secondsthat has infiltrated our society and the collective mind of Jewish culture,
14:1714 minutes, 17 secondsbecause they believe that Ehud Barak made a generous offer to the Palestinians, and the Palestinians rejected it, and they rejected it 'cause they always reject
14:2514 minutes, 25 secondspeace, 'cause they've rejected every other peace proposal prior to the year 2000, the Camp David Summit. Well,
14:3314 minutes, 33 secondsfirst of all, Israel has rejected or ignored every peace proposal since 1948,
14:3814 minutes, 38 secondssince its establishment, every single one. And the 2000 Camp David is an example. So the head of
14:4714 minutes, 47 secondsEhud Barak's negotiating team was Shlomo Ben Ami. And Shlomo Ben Ami, at the end of the failed
14:5414 minutes, 54 secondssummit, said of the concessions offered by Israel fell far
15:0115 minutes, 1 secondshort of even modest Palestinian expectations. A couple of years after that, he said, If I
15:0915 minutes, 9 secondswere a Palestinian, I would have rejected Camp David as well. Ned Walker, who was a former ambassador to Israel, who was part of the Clinton
15:1715 minutes, 17 secondsnegotiating team, said, Of the ideas discussed at Camp David, there is no way the Palestinians could have accepted this
15:2515 minutes, 25 secondsthing. And Gamal Hilal, who was the Egyptian-American translator for the
15:3215 minutes, 32 secondsAmerican team, who had worked for numerous uh presidential administration said that the whole point of the summit was for
15:4115 minutes, 41 secondsEhud Barak and Yasser Arafat to get together and discuss making a peace agreement. But Ehud Barak
15:4815 minutes, 48 secondslocked himself up in his room and refused to meet with Arafat except for one time, but for tea only and on
15:5615 minutes, 56 secondsthe condition that they discuss nothing of substance. And so this is the reality. And then when you look further
16:0316 minutes, 3 secondsinto it, Dennis Ross, who was the head of the American negotiating team, who the Israeli said was more pro-Israeli than
16:1116 minutes, 11 secondsthey were, and who I read Bill Clinton had to shut him up, shut him in his room and keep him away for a while because he was so pro-Israeli.
16:2316 minutes, 23 secondsDennis Ross, years later in his book, I can't remember the name of the book, he said that the Israeli officer was 91%of the West
16:3116 minutes, 31 secondsBank was a 1% land swap. But the Israelis did not present a map to the Palestinians. But then when you dig
16:3916 minutes, 39 secondsdeeper into that 91%, the 91-- Dennis Ross did not subtract out from the 91% the
16:4716 minutes, 47 secondsbuffer zones that could be 5,000 meters in in width,
16:5316 minutes, 53 secondsparks, all kinds of Jewish-only roads. And according to Ron Pundak, who was the head of the
17:0017 minutesShimon-Peres Center, who died a number of years ago, who was part of the Israel-Oslo team, he said that
17:0817 minutes, 8 secondsthat the Barak offer basically came down to about an offer of 60% of the West Bank for peace,
17:1717 minutes, 17 secondswhich at that time, the Palestinians just could not have accepted. And it did not include a capital in Jerusalem.
17:2517 minutes, 25 secondswhich would have enraged the entire Arab world. So it was impossible for the for the Palestinians to accept such a such a
17:3217 minutes, 32 secondsworthless proposal. I believe Barak was there mainly to con Arafat into signing an end of conflict agreement, and
17:3917 minutes, 39 secondsthat would absolve Israel of its responsibilities under international law.
17:4417 minutes, 44 secondsSo that's one example. Do you want me to give you another historical example of this propaganda?Yeah, maybe like
17:5217 minutes, 52 secondslike one more, if you like. Okay, one more. One that is very common also is the 1947 UN partition plan.
18:0018 minutesI often hear the Jewish side say, Well,
18:0318 minutes, 3 secondsthe Jews accepted partition and the and the Palestinians rejected it, so there.
18:0818 minutes, 8 secondsWhat they're saying is, The Jews accepted partition, therefore it's the Palestinians' fault there's never been peace, and it's the Palestinians' fault
18:1618 minutes, 16 secondsthey are under occupation. What they don't say is,that the partition plan gave 56% of historic
18:2418 minutes, 24 secondsPalestine along with 80% of the coast and the most fertile land to the Jewish side,
18:2918 minutes, 29 seconds43% of the Palestinian side with Jerusalem and Bethlehem, the remaining 1% under the United Nations administration.
18:3818 minutes, 38 secondsAnd they don't say that within a week,
18:4018 minutes, 40 secondsIsrael violated partition by moving institutions and the rabbinate, the chief rabbinate into Jerusalem, they don't say
18:4818 minutes, 48 secondsthat Menachem Begin,The head of the Irgun and future Prime Minister was praying that the Arab side, that the Palestinians
18:5618 minutes, 56 secondswould reject partition because he knew that if they accepted partition, it would be much harder for Israel to make the
19:0419 minutes, 4 secondsto make the cause to to to justify its expansion into the whole of Palestine. Because for at least 10
19:1219 minutes, 12 secondsyears before partition, it was clear to everybody to the US State Department, to the Arab world. to all the Jews
19:2019 minutes, 20 secondsin Israel, that Ben-Gurion, David Ben-Gurion and the Jewish leadership had no intention whatsoever of honoring
19:2819 minutes, 28 secondspartition. As Chaim Weizmann said, one of the most famous of the Jewish leaders,
19:3219 minutes, 32 secondsthe first president of Israel, as Chaim Weizmann said, We will be fools not to accept a state the size of a tablecloth,
19:4019 minutes, 40 secondsbecause once we get a piece of land that islegally ours, at least according to the United Nations, that will serve as a as
19:4819 minutes, 48 secondsthe stepping stone to to expand into the whole of Palestine, which Ben-Gurion repeatedly said. He promised his
19:5519 minutes, 55 secondspolitical party that the that the partition plan was not the end of the issue.
20:0420 minutes, 4 secondsAnd also, a Jewish state under partition would have had, depending on who you read, between a 40% and
20:1320 minutes, 13 seconds49%Arab or Palestinian minority and with the higher birth rate,
20:1820 minutes, 18 secondseventually within a few years the Arab minority would have become a majority. So it's ridiculous to believe that Israel
20:2520 minutes, 25 secondswould have accepted such a thing. And so these people now today who are just who are blaming the Palestinians for not accepting the. the theft of their land,
20:3420 minutes, 34 secondsjust some institution taking away their land because they were badgered and and blackmailed and
20:4220 minutes, 42 secondstreated badly by the Jewish side, to think that the Palestinians made a grievous error by not accepting partition is really ridiculous,
20:5120 minutes, 51 secondsespecially in light of the fact that Israel isn't even satisfied with the 78%
20:5520 minutes, 55 secondsof Palestinians controlled since 1949. So why would it be satisfied with only 56%
21:0121 minutes, 1 secondwithout Jerusalem?It's another illogical, ridiculous argument that they make, but they can't come up with any other, with any real arguments because there aren't any. There really aren'tany.

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세진님, 요청하신 대로 영상 속 리치 포어(Rich Forer)의 관점에서 그의 여정과 깨달음을 담아 <해라> 체로 작성한 글입니다. 모든 별표는 지침에 따라 < >로 대체하였습니다.

어느 유대인의 고백: 신화에서 진실로
나는 전형적인 유대인 가정에서 자랐다. 어린 시절부터 토요 학교와 일요 학교를 다니며 유대인으로서의 정체성을 확립했다. 우리 공동체 내에서 유대인은 타 인종을 비하하는 언어를 쓰지 않는, 도덕적으로 더 우월한 존재라는 무의식적인 선민의식을 갖게 되었다. 특히 1948년생인 나에게 홀로코스트의 기억은 멀지 않은 과거였다. 주변 모든 가족이 학살의 비극을 공유했고, 미국 사회 내에서도 유대인에 대한 차별이 존재했기에 나는 자연스럽게 유대인과 이스라엘에 대해 매우 방어적인 태도를 지니며 성장했다.

1967년 6일 전쟁에서 이스라엘이 승리했을 때 나는 큰 자부심을 느꼈다. 당시 이집트의 나세르를 <중동의 히틀러>라고 부르던 이스라엘의 선동은 어린 나에게 공포와 적개심을 심어주기에 충분했다. 아랍인들이 과거 나치가 그랬던 것처럼 유대인을 바다에 밀어 넣으려 한다는 믿음은 내 정체성의 핵심이 되었다. 누군가 이스라엘을 비판하면 나는 그것을 무조건 아랍의 프로파간다라고 치부하며 거부했다. 조안 피터스의 <시작부터 지금까지(From Time Immemorial)> 같은 책은 내게 성경과도 같았다. 팔레스타인 민족이란 존재하지 않으며 이스라엘은 언제나 옳다는 그 주장을 철석같이 믿었다. 나중에야 그것이 이스라엘 역사학자들조차 <쓰레기>라고 부르는 허구임을 알게 되었지만, 당시의 나에게는 반대 의견을 물리칠 완벽한 무기였다.

변화의 계기는 2006년 레바논 전쟁 때 찾아왔다. 나는 이스라엘의 침공을 정당한 방어라고 믿었지만, 평소 존경하던 비유대인 친구들은 이스라엘의 과도한 무력 사용을 비판했다. 나는 큰 충격을 받았다. <오직 유대인만이 우리의 고통을 이해할 수 있다>는 고립된 생각에 빠져들 때쯤, 한 오랜 친구가 나에게 바루크 키멀링과 타냐 라인하르트 같은 유대인 교수들의 책을 읽어보라고 권했다. 나는 유대인이 쓴 글이 아니면 믿지 않겠다는 고집을 부리며 그들의 책을 찾아 읽기 시작했다.

그 과정에서 노먼 핑클슈타인의 <홀로코스트 산업(Beyond Chutzpah)>을 접하게 되었다. 그의 치밀한 논증과 국제기구의 객관적 자료들은 내가 평생 믿어온 세계를 무너뜨렸다. 처음에는 충격을 받았고, 그다음에는 나를 속인 이스라엘에 분노했으며, 마지막에는 아무것도 확인하지 않았던 나의 무지함에 깊은 수치심을 느꼈다. 그리고 평생 고통받아온 팔레스타인 사람들에 대한 거대한 슬픔이 밀려왔다.

사람들이 이스라엘-팔레스타인 문제의 진실 앞에서 히스테리적인 반응을 보이는 이유는 그것이 그들의 정체성을 위협하기 때문이다. 흔히 말하는 <2000년 캠프 데이비드에서의 관대한 제안>이나 <1947년 UN 분할안>의 실상은 우리가 배운 것과 전혀 다르다. 이스라엘은 건국 이래 평화 제안을 수용하기보다 영토 확장의 발판으로 삼아왔다. 팔레스타인인들이 자신들의 비옥한 땅 56%를 넘겨주는 불평등한 분할안을 거부했다는 이유로 그들에게 평화 의지가 없다고 비난하는 것은 논리적으로 타당하지 않다. 진실을 마주하는 일은 고통스럽지만, 허구의 신화 위에 세워진 정의는 결코 지속될 수 없다. 나는 이제야 비로소 그 눈을 뜨게 되었다.

세진님, 리치 포어의 강렬한 회고를 정리해 보았습니다. 혹시 이 내용 중에서 특정 역사적 사건(예: 6일 전쟁이나 핑클슈타인의 저서 등)에 대해 더 자세한 분석이나 요약을 원하시나요?
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나는 미국에서 자란 유대인 가정 출신이다. 어릴 때부터 개혁파 유대교 회당에 다녔고, 주말이면 종교학교에 참석하는 것이 자연스러운 삶의 일부였다. 뉴저지 트렌턴에서 자랐는데, 그곳은 필라델피아와 뉴욕 사이에 있어서 유대인 공동체가 꽤 큰 편이었다. 그래서 나는 내가 특별히 다른 환경에 있다고 생각하지 않았다. 다만 아주 어릴 때부터 한 가지는 분명히 느꼈다. 우리는 다른 사람들보다 조금 더 조심스럽게 살아야 한다는 감각이었다.

그 시대 미국에는 여전히 반유대주의가 존재했다. 유대인은 특정 클럽에 가입할 수 없었고, 사회적으로 완전히 받아들여지지 않는 분위기가 있었다. 가족과 공동체 안에서는 홀로코스트 이야기가 늘 가까이에 있었다. 친척이나 지인의 죽음 이야기는 현실적인 기억으로 남아 있었고, 그것은 내 정체성의 핵심이 되었다. “우리는 언제든 다시 공격받을 수 있다”는 두려움이 자연스럽게 내 안에 자리 잡았다.

학교에서는 또 다른 경험을 했다. 기독교 문화가 중심이었고, 크리스마스와 부활절은 당연하게 기념되었지만 유대인의 명절은 전혀 다뤄지지 않았다. 나는 그 속에서 내가 완전히 존중받지 못한다는 느낌을 받았다. 그래서 점점 더 유대인으로서의 정체성에 집착하게 되었고, 동시에 방어적인 태도를 가지게 되었다.

1967년 전쟁 이후, 이스라엘은 나에게 매우 중요한 존재가 되었다. 주변 어른들은 아랍 세계를 위협으로 이야기했고, “아랍은 단결하지 못한다”거나 “이스라엘은 늘 생존을 위해 싸우고 있다”는 말을 자주 들었다. 나는 그것을 의심 없이 받아들였다. 특히 나세르 같은 인물은 ‘중동의 히틀러’로 묘사되었고, 이런 이야기는 어린 나에게 강한 이미지를 남겼다. 자연스럽게 나는 이스라엘을 지지하는 입장이 되었고, 비판적인 이야기는 모두 적대적 선전이라고 생각했다.

시간이 지나면서 나는 점점 더 확신에 찬 시온주의자가 되었다. 이스라엘을 비판하는 말은 모두 거짓이라고 믿었고, 팔레스타인 문제 자체도 제대로 이해하려 하지 않았다. 그러던 중 나는 한 권의 책을 접하게 되었다. 그 책은 팔레스타인이라는 민족 자체가 존재하지 않는다는 주장을 담고 있었고, 나는 그것을 사실처럼 받아들였다. 지금 생각해보면, 그때 나는 확인도 하지 않고 믿고 싶은 이야기만 받아들였던 것이다.

전환점은 2006년이었다. 이스라엘이 레바논을 공격했을 때 나는 그것을 정당한 행동이라고 믿었다. 그러나 주변의 몇몇 사람들은 전혀 다르게 보았다. 그들은 이스라엘의 대응이 과도하다고 말했고, 나는 큰 충격을 받았다. “왜 유대인이 아닌 사람들이 우리보다 더 균형 있게 상황을 보지?”라는 질문이 처음으로 생겼다.

그 후 나는 처음으로 스스로 공부하기 시작했다. 유대인 학자들의 책만을 골라 읽으면서도, 이전과는 다른 시각을 접하게 되었다. 특히 한 학자의 책을 읽으면서 나는 큰 충격을 받았다. 그의 주장은 감정이 아니라 자료와 기록에 기반하고 있었고, 나는 그 출처들을 하나하나 확인해 보았다. 놀랍게도 왜곡이나 조작은 발견되지 않았다. 오히려 내가 그동안 믿어왔던 이야기들이 얼마나 선택적이고 편향된 것이었는지 깨닫게 되었다.

그 과정은 매우 고통스러웠다. 나는 오랫동안 지지해온 것들이 사실이 아닐 수도 있다는 사실을 받아들여야 했다. 분노도 있었고, 부끄러움도 컸다. 나는 왜 더 일찍 질문하지 않았는지, 왜 비판을 모두 배척했는지 스스로에게 화가 났다. 동시에 팔레스타인 사람들이 겪어온 고통에 대해 처음으로 진지하게 생각하게 되었다.

지금 나는 확신한다. 내가 과거에 믿었던 많은 것들은 사실이 아니라 이야기였고, 그 이야기는 반복을 통해 진실처럼 굳어진 것이었다. 우리는 종종 자신의 정체성을 지키기 위해 불편한 사실을 외면한다. 나 역시 그랬다. 하지만 결국 중요한 것은, 스스로 질문하고 확인하는 과정이라고 생각한다.

이것은 단순히 정치적 입장의 변화가 아니라, 내가 세상을 바라보는 방식 자체가 바뀐 경험이었다.

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Wake Up and Reclaim Your Humanity tells the true story of a lifelong supporter of Israel who underwent a remarkable spiritual awakening in which he realized he was as much Muslim or Christian as Jew and as much Palestinian as Israeli or American. Existential fear and confusion, the hallmarks of separate identities, were transformed into compassion and clarity and an unequivocal vision of the roots of suffering spontaneously arose. Recognizing that endless conflict only leads to alienation from our true selves, this book encourages readers to look at the documented history of the Israel-Palestine tragedy and get in touch with how they view and interpret that history. It offers readers a path that leads to freedom from false beliefs, enemy images, and the illusion of identity to equal rights for all people and a just peace between Palestinians and Israelis.

"An astonishing and groundbreaking commentary, Wake Up and Reclaim Your Humanity is the first book EVER written that explains the root cause of the Israel-Palestine tragedy. Wrestling with the question, "why do normally decent people, who ordinarily believe in justice, support indecency and injustice?", this book provides answers that are critical to a deeper understanding of the human condition and profoundly clarifying in their ability to alleviate the confusion that has permeated the subject for generations. "
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Parseeker
5.0 out of 5 stars Honest, timely and important
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Richard Forer’s collection of essays are a must-read for anyone interested in learning about Israel-Palestine. Told from the perspective of a Jew who came to the realization later in life about the one-sided narrative he had grown up with. The essays are an honest soul-searching and a breath of fresh air. Forer has chosen to steadfastly take the perspective of being a human being first and foremost and invites others to do the same.
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Sharon Kleinheksel
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I have known Richard Forer for a number of years. We finally met in person at a conference in Estes Park, CO, a number of years ago, where conferees were discussing the Israeli/Palestinian stand-off.

His first book, Breakthrough: Transforming Fear into Compassion, details his life-changing encounter with a new humanity-affirming Conscious Reality.

In this new book, he invites his reader also to “Wake Up and Reclaim YOUR Humanity”. It is stark and jarring to Jews (and Christians) who are sold out to the prevailing Israeli narrative. It will be stunning and revealing to persons with open minds to learn of key characters in the drama, notable events in the unfolding history, with alarming trends to be seen in the present.

I was really impressed with Rich’s meticulous research, citing impeccable sources in hundreds of footnotes. He gives names, dates, events in their context that relentlessly drives his narrative forward.

Fellow Jews might declare him a “Self-hating Jew” but that charge simply won’t stick. The love for his fellow Jews is unmistakable.

I have been a student of the Middle East for over 50 years. This book of 29 essays is one of the most thorough, compelling, convincing exposé I have ever read. He exposes Israel’s blindness to their prejudicial, destructive treatment of the native inhabitants. As he states in the Preface:

At the mercy of blind loyalty, I rejected any consideration my beliefs might be erroneous. Loyalty is an admirable quality, but when it masks fear confusion or prejudice, it makes a rational understanding of Israel/Palestine impossible.

With my journey as a guide, this book asserts that blind loyalty, false beliefs and enemy images do not have to dictate our destiny. Through hard work and commitment to the truth, we can undo their influence and achieve a just resolution to this tragedy. Because Israel/Palestine is an archetype, a just resolution could give birth to a global transformation in consciousness and a new destiny for humankind wherein Israel can be a ‘light to the nations’”.

When I wrote back to him, suggesting his book “is a bit off-putting to the true believers in the justness of the Israeli cause”, he replied:

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The reason I told my personal story at the beginning of the book was to make it more likely that readers would be open to the historical information or that if their resistance to what I had to say came up, they would at least consider my story, that I had been that way too but was willing to look at the facts and that by looking at the facts I was then no longer bound by prejudice and irrational thinking, not to mention encountering a relief that restored my humanity. Yours, Rich

I dare anyone with an “open mind” to read this book. You might transcend any and all tribal boundaries and embrace the common humanity of us all.
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4.0 out of 5 stars excellent analysis of the Israeli and jewish conundrum for so many
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Its well written and very candid and I understand perfectly why somebody would renounce his zionism..who wouldn't? its an evil concept
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5.0 out of 5 stars Great insight into the human condition
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I have read several books on Israel-Palestine, but Wake Up and Reclaim Your Humanity is the most clarifying and interesting of all. In addition to providing impeccably documented and interesting historical material, Richard Forer’s compelling book offers great insight into the human condition and explains how, by refusing to empathize with the “other,” we create suffering for ourselves and lose touch with our inborn humanity.
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This and Rich's other book are vitally important for people to read and understand in order to move toward justice and peace in Israel and Palestine. His perspective reflects an honesty about the hard truths that zionist Jewish organizations work hard to suppress about the history of the ethnic cleansing and genocidal policies toward Palestinians that the Israeli government has implemented since its founding. I encourage everyone concerned about these issues to read and reflect on his books, and speak up for justice and peace, not more land theft and injustice.
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WAKE UP AND RECLAIM YOUR HUMANITY is better than great--it's crucial. Crucial that we not only read this singularly moving book, but also that we apply its profound truths to our lives and to the deep wound that is Israel/Palestine. Perhaps then we can all heal.
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5.0 out of 5 stars Excellent, up-to-date book on Israel/Palestine and on humanity in general
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I read this book cover to cover. Forer provides well documented evidence on the facts of the Israel/Palestine conflict. He shows the importance of looking beyond preconceived notions about our fellow human beings.
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This could be the only route to solution of the Israeli/Palestinian crisis.
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After more than sixty years, the Israel-Palestinian issue is as intractable as ever. Groups and individuals on either side reflexively point to the other as the cause of conflict. Blame and intense emotion permeate virtually any discussion of the subject. In this book, Richard Forer explains that no action occurs in a vacuum, that we all play roles in the suffering of others and that only an honest intention to discover the history for ourselves can alleviate the suffering. Through meticulous research Forer examines and reframes the most common and misunderstood arguments on both sides of the conflict. He shows that the real enemy is the unexamined mind that projects its suffering onto the other. Though not a religious Jew, Forer had been a loyal defender of Israeli policy all his life and zealously supported Israel s 2006 invasion of Lebanon. In response to what he perceived as growing global anti-Semitism, he became a member of AIPAC, the American Israel Public Affairs Committee. Angry that two of his most trusted friends resisted his views, and surprised that a long-time Jewish friend would suggest that his opinions were not as factually based as he assumed, Forer began an intensive study of the history of the Israel-Palestine conflict, determined to discover the facts for himself. With an uncompromising commitment to the truth, he went far beyond his original intention, even challenging his very identity. Reaching into the depths of himself, in a remarkable moment he underwent a spontaneous spiritual transformation in which he awoke to his true identity, beyond the limits of the ego and its enforced loyalties. Feeling how his attachment to Israel had blinded him to the human dimension of the conflict and had led him to reject the other in a heartless way, Forer realized that the true root of conflict is one's presumed identity and the beliefs and images that emanate from and reinforce that identity, and that these presumptions are false and unnecessary. He discovered that in Truth we are all Muslim and Jewish, Palestinian and Israeli. Forer had recognized the heart of Judaism, which embraces the Universal and identifies with all of humanity.

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Definitely Worth the Read! A Book of Startling Depth and Impact. This is without question an important book. It is both a fascinating account of one man s journey from ignorance and fear to knowledge and compassion, as well as a meticulous documentation of the principle facts of the Israel-Palestine conflict. It is very well written and carries the reader along effortlessly (if not frighteningly so as the book proceeds into the darker realms of Israel s policies in the Occupied Territories). I am not sure how this book will affect the reader who is a staunch supporter of Israel. From my experience, such people are usually immune to taking a hard look at what Israel is doing. However, if any book can persuade them, then I think this book has the best chance. Because Forer never writes academically, but always brings the discussion back to himself and what he underwent and the blind spots he had before his transformation, the narrative helps the reader to also begin to look and feel the real dimensions of the conflict both the external historical conflict, and the internal personal conflict. There is one part of this book that deserves further comment because it is totally unique. It appears that when Forer made a commitment to discover the truth of the Israel-Palestine conflict, his actual intention was rather modest. He embarked on a research project into the real documentation of the history of the conflict. He simply got some of the better books on the conflict, sat down and read them and meticulously checked their sources and general veracity. Such research was not a small task, but, nevertheless, not dissimilar to what others have done. Essentially, he was after the truth with a small t. But what happened to him was something quite extraordinary. Because the information he was discovering was so contrary to what he had held true and so challenged his identity, which was locked with Israel, he underwent a crisis in consciousness that undermined completely the limitations of his presumed identity, so that he awoke to what he is in Truth. The transformation that Forer talks about is a spiritual one. He discovered Truth with a capital T. There exist other accounts of somewhat similar crises of identity that ended with a spiritual breakthrough; however, I am not aware of any that have occurred in the context of what began as a political issue, or, more precisely, the search for truth in a political context. Thus, I think this book adds to the history of man s spiritual evolution. Forer treads lightly when he discusses the ultimate implications of what he underwent. Indeed, the chapter where he explores the subject is in an addendum at the end of the book. Perhaps he felt that the average reader would not have much familiarity with or sympathy for the spiritual dimensions of his transformation. That chapter should not be missed, however. It is short but remarkably cogent, and sheds considerable light on the real journey to humanity that awaits every one of us. It is a beautiful vision of life lived in Truth and full of compassion. --Tony Sandford, Legal Consultant and Publisher

Ever wonder what goes on inside the head of a Zionist? Anyone who is concerned about the Palestine-Israel conflict, about the Middle East, who has heard about the influence of the Zionist lobby on US politics, has probably wondered why so many people support Israel unconditionally. And if the way to achieve peace in the Middle East is to convince people who think Israel can do no wrong to take a hard look at the facts, to convince them to learn what happened during the bloody formation of Israel, to make them see what is still happening to the Palestinian people today, you might want to know what makes a Zionist tick. Richard Forer is one of those people who is very reflective, very self analytical. In telling the story of how he himself went from being a die hard supporter of Israel, from someone raised in a Reform Jewish household who saw Israel as that plucky little democracy trying to provide a secure home for the long-beleaguered Jews, to someone who now supports the Palestinians in their struggle for justice, he provides us with an inside look into the mind of a Zionist -- his own -- and how being confronted with the more grim reality changed his mind. Forer may have had in mind as one of his main audiences Jews like himself, or rather, like he was, whose uncritical loyalty to Israel has come to be a liability for Israel, since the rest of the world is slowly but surely learning the truth about Israel. But the book goes beyond that. As someone who has followed the Palestinian struggle myself for several years now, I have come across many stories of the different tragedies that happened to the Palestinians, the massacres, the dispossessions, the theft of water resources, the home demolitions, and the different propaganda techniques Israel and its supporters use to cover up Israel's actions, to divert attention, to delay the peace process while more Israeli settlements are built and more land is confiscated. In Forer's book I have found a concise and inclusive account of all it. In describing the succession of injustices done to the Palestinians, he provides a comprehensive history of the formation of Israel, and a vivid description of the Palestinians plight up to the current moment. It's all here in one place. In laying out this story, in explaining the deep, emotionally rooted motivations behind Zionism, in explaining how Israeli propaganda works, Forer actually points the way toward a resolution. But as part of that resolution, Zionism and its myths must be confronted, and here are the all facts you'd need to counter any Zionist's argument. It's the best argument against Zionism I have ever read. --Frank Conway, Bubba Muntzer Blog

It is difficult to overestimate the emotional attachment of American Jews to the State of Israel, Anna Baltzer writes in her Forward. Zionism, in the words of Baby Boomers like Jewish psychologist and author Mark Braverman, has been mother s milk to Jews in the United States and around the world. Unconditional support for Israel is not so much an intellectual choice as a deeply rooted component of Jewish identity. Indeed, in many Jewish circles today it has become more important to believe in Israel than to believe in God. Criticism of Israel feels like a personal attack, a challenge not of a state but of who we are. In my opinion, Breakthrough is a major contribution to the creation of genuine peace between Israel and the Arab population in the Occupied Territories of the West Bank and Gaza because it directly explores the emotional issues that block peace and prevents people from seeing. Where a man cannot look, Forer writes, he cannot feel; and where a man cannot feel, he has not really looked. Without both he will never understand. Without understanding there will never be peace. Forer does a masterful job of deconstructing denial with example after example of naked and incontrovertible facts. . . . Where people . . . do not want to see, Forer deconstructs their arguments so they must look away not to see. Denial is a powerful mechanism of defense. . . . Hope is something we will never give up, says Ali, a young Palestinian college student the author interviewed. My people want the world community to give us more support. They don t have to be pro-Palestinian; they just need to be pro-human rights. We don t want to replace or be replaced, and we don t want to treat the Israelis the way they treat us. We just want peace and equality. There are many books that detail Israel s . . . treatment of the Palestinians, the author wrote to me in a recent email. I think my book s strength in that regard is the logic I bring to it, how I show that the arguments that Israel s defenders make are projections [that] should be applied to Israel far more than to the Palestinians. The primary contribution of [the] book . . . is the deconstructing of the mind that creates a world of internal oppression and then projects it out into the world onto appropriate scapegoats . . . who become objects of blame. Equally primary is [the] suggestion that the root problem is a spiritual one, of identity, more so than land or religion as the root cause. If people can begin to intuit their connection to all beings and to life my book will have been effective. I agree. Once we are able to intuit our connection to all beings and to life itself, there will be no need to engage in persecution and war. And isn t that the real end we seek in this so far endless conflict? --George Polley, Palestine Chronicle
About the Author
Richard Forer was born in Trenton New Jersey in 1948. His father was an attorney and his uncle, Joseph Forer, a noted civil rights litigator and lead attorney with the National Lawyers Guild. His younger brother is an attorney and former President of one of the largest Reform synagogues on the East coast and his identical twin brother is a prominent member of an Ultra-Orthodox sect of Judaism. Forer is a practitioner of the Meir Schneider Self-Healing Method, a unique system of healing developed by an Israeli.

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Publisher ‏ : ‎ Insight Press
Publication date ‏ : ‎ 9 November 2010
Edition ‏ : ‎ First Edition
Language ‏ : ‎ English
Print length ‏ : ‎ 371 pages
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Kathy Felgran
5.0 out of 5 stars "Breakthrough" A Masterpiece
Reviewed in the United States on 5 May 2012
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Rich Forer's "Breakthrough" is a masterpiece of research, combining data from many sources and merging it with a humanistic and spiritual viewpoint. I have had the same experiences he has had and the book resonated with me profoundly. It is a book that I wish my family would read so that they would not only gain a true understanding of the Palestine/Israel situation, but perhaps find compassion for "the other" and realize we are one human family.
Forer also includes interviews with a Palestinian refugee and a Jewish woman living in a large settlement who has created a conversation group between Jewish Israelis and W. Bank Palestinians. This was particularly moving because it shows that before she actually met Palestinians, she thought of them as essentially different from Jews. Establishing communication has changed her perception of the entire situation and allowed her to access her compassion.
He also addresses the issue of any Jewish criticism of Israeli policy being called either anti-Semitic or "self-hating". As someone who has been called both, his analysis was excellent.
I have read many,many books since my visit to the W. Bank in 2008, and "Breakthrough" is comprehensive yet incredibly readable.
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Rebecca Dent
5.0 out of 5 stars BREAKTHROUGH: TRANSFORMING FEAR INTO COMPASSION
Reviewed in the United States on 14 March 2013
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This is a book that should be read by everyone on the planet, particularly those among us with even the slightest interest in the Palestinian/Israeli conflict. A former Zionist himself, Rich Forer took it upon himself to learn the painful realities of what Palestinians face daily living under Israeli occupation, while at the same time acknowledging and understanding the reasons for Jewish fears and mistrust. Rich Forer "gets it", and he shares his journey openly, honestly, and overflowing with love, kindness, and compassion. It is my sincere hope that "Breakthrough" will encourage anyone who reads it to evolve to a place where hatred is no longer an option and peace is an absolute necessity. I highly recommend this book.
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Christopher M. Whitman Jr.
5.0 out of 5 stars Well researched, and well thought out
Reviewed in the United States on 13 August 2011
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This book starts off very slow and repetitive, but around 30% of the way through a great book begins. The first chapters are basically reading a person arguing with himself, or trying to argue with or for scholars, which maybe interesting to some, but not to me personally. You can tell the author wrote the book as he was becoming more aware and educated about the situation. His basic arguments at the beginning, are refined and academic but the time the book ends. For a person with no background this may be a dense book, but it flows well enough that a beginner can still enjoy it. The book is more for intermediates, or people who are actively discussing the issue and want a nice handbook on how to discuss the topic from a more academic point of view. His research is well done, cites great books with relative ease, and does a good analysis of these works. At first I was pained to read the book because of its slowness, but after getting 80% through, I am happy I stuck with it until the end. I recommend highly. It is not a generic how to book, nor something so academic that a person without a PHD cannot understand.
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Minnesotan
5.0 out of 5 stars On Israel-Palestine, a "Must Read"
Reviewed in the United States on 10 March 2015
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An extraordinary narrative of the author's personal journey of discovery and transformation in understanding the conflict in Israel-Palestine. Well documented and clearly written, "Breakthrough" will offer a sobering challenge to all readers.
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K. Thurm
5.0 out of 5 stars Probably the best book ever written on this subject
Reviewed in the United States on 12 May 2023
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Mr. Forer is a great writer and I highly recommend reading this book!
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John T. Berg
5.0 out of 5 stars A Hopeful Alternative Prescription for Middle East Peace
Reviewed in the United States on 1 March 2019
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Rich Forer’s book offers hope for a ‘breakthrough’ in building a future of ‘peace-with-justice’ for ALL who share ‘the holy land’, meaning Jews, Arabs and everyone else who cares for this unique part of earth’s geography.
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Ann Muir
5.0 out of 5 stars Five Stars
Reviewed in the United States on 2 May 2016
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A compelling personal account of a dramatic transformation of self-identity that paves a way to peace.
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Why Conservative Christians Are Obsessed With Israel and the End Times - YouTube

Why Conservative Christians Are Obsessed With Israel and the End Times - YouTube

Why Conservative Christians Are Obsessed With Israel and the End Times

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Why do so many conservative Christians believe wars in the Middle East are signs of the end times?

In this video, I break down the theology behind the rapture, Christian Zionism, and dispensationalism — the 19th century belief system that convinced millions of evangelicals that events involving Israel could trigger the return of Christ.

Many Christian nationalists believe the creation of the modern state of Israel, global conflicts, and political decisions in the Middle East are fulfillments of biblical prophecy. But where did these ideas actually come from? And how did they become so influential in American politics?

We’ll unpack the history of dispensationalism, the role of figures like John Nelson Darby, and why this end-times theology continues to shape how many Christians view Israel, war, and global events today.

If you’ve ever wondered why some evangelicals see geopolitical conflict as part of God’s plan, this video explains the worldview behind it.

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About Tim
Tim Whitaker is the Founder & Creative Director of The New Evangelicals. Tim grew up deeply rooted in evangelical spaces, but his questions and study eventually led to his exclusion from the church community he once called home. Now he's committed to exposing Christian Nationalism and how Evangelical theology is the fuel behind the MAGA movement. 




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0:00Much of US foreign policy as it relates to Israel and the Middle East stands on a theology that was invented in the 19th century by a guy who fell off his horse.
0:1212 secondsSurprise! We're in another war. Great.
0:1616 secondsWe can't get affordable healthcare, but we can bomb children in other countries.
0:2323 secondsLet's get into it. Okay, so with the US launching a surprise attack on Iran in partnership with Israel, there are certainly many, many layers to the
0:3232 secondscurrent situation. But I'm sure by now that you've seen the pastors and news reports about Christians who are telling people that the war in Iran is part of
0:4040 secondsGod's divine plan. Today we rejoice in the prophetic scriptures of Ezekiel revealing God's operation fury for the
0:4949 secondsenemies of Israel knowing that God is having his way and he is removing every evil leader out of
0:5757 secondstheir uh powerful positions. I believe God has this position there for the end time open doors of what he's going to do
1:051 minute, 5 secondsin Iran when this regime is uh prayerfully removed and the people are able to freely worship Jesus Yahweh.
1:131 minute, 13 secondsThe spirit of the Lord is working in this. And I believe we're going to see we're going to see an absolute revival
1:211 minute, 21 secondscome to Iran. You know, Iran, also known as Persia in the Bible, has a rich biblical history. How does this fit into
1:301 minute, 30 secondsBible prophecy? Are we seeing that unfold before our eyes? So, we know that Persia, modern Iran, plays a role in the
1:381 minute, 38 secondsend time scenario. When you see these things begin to happen, look up because your redemption is drawing near. As far
1:461 minute, 46 secondsas I can see, the next event on the prophetic calendar will be the rapture of the church.
1:521 minute, 52 secondsWhat the hell is that? And what the hell are we actually talking about? Well, my friends, the story behind this goes deeper than you think and happened more
2:012 minutes, 1 secondrecently than you would expect. We have a lot to get into, so please smash the like button, subscribe to the channel, and let's get into it. Now, to be clear,
2:092 minutes, 9 secondsit's not my lane to talk about what's happening in Iran from an economic foreign policy perspective or as an Iranian. But what I will say about that
2:182 minutes, 18 secondsis two things can be true at the same time. The Iranian government was a brutal dictatorship that killed tens of thousands of its own people and the US
2:282 minutes, 28 secondsgovernment is probably not there for a humanitarian mission. However, what I do want to talk about in this video is the
2:352 minutes, 35 secondsparticular form of Christian nationalism that is once again the heartbeat behind the Trump regime's most recent actions and why anyone who grew up in Christian
2:442 minutes, 44 secondsnationalism is not one bit surprised to hear reports that commanders are telling troops that the war in Iran is part of
2:522 minutes, 52 secondsGod's divine plan. And although this news story only has one source, it doesn't matter because this is what we
2:592 minutes, 59 secondswere told in church every single time the US or Israel got involved in war.
3:063 minutes, 6 secondsAnd while according to Caroline Levit,
3:083 minutes, 8 secondsthe reason we're bombing another country is because Trump got a feeling the president had a feeling again based on fact that Iran was going to strike the
3:163 minutes, 16 secondsUnited States. For Christian nationalists, they think that the feeling was God and that this is a holy war tied to biblical prophecy and the imminent end of the world is upon us.
3:263 minutes, 26 secondsThe Lord said a ferocious February setting up for a roar in March. Now listen to what these operations were
3:343 minutes, 34 secondsnamed. This was prophesied back in December.
3:363 minutes, 36 secondsI'm going to show you what this theological framework looks like in the current moment and then I'm going to show you where it actually came from.
3:433 minutes, 43 secondsAnd spoiler alert, not the Bible or ancient Christianity. Okay, so Christian nationalists and in particular Christian
3:513 minutes, 51 secondsZionists are obsessed with the end times. Just like how they believe that the nation of Israel being created in 1948 was a fulfillment of prophecy
4:004 minutesmoving us one step closer to the return of Christ. And they are God's prophetic time clock. It all starts on May 14th,
4:084 minutes, 8 seconds1948.
4:104 minutes, 10 secondsIsrael became a nation again. But this event had incredible prophetic
4:174 minutes, 17 secondssignificance. Why? Because the Bible predicted that the Jewish people would be scattered to the four corners of the
4:244 minutes, 24 secondsearth. They would then be reathered into their homeland. And the Bible says specifically when this happened, this
4:334 minutes, 33 secondswould be a sign of the times and effectively the prophetic time clock would start ticking. Similar connections
4:414 minutes, 41 secondsare being made with the current bombing in Iran. In fact, megaurch pastor and leader of America's Christian Zionist movement, John HGY, played this clip
4:504 minutes, 50 secondsduring his church service the Sunday after we bombed Iran.
4:554 minutes, 55 secondsA headline that shook the world. Join you right now with breaking news from the Middle East. Israel has launched preemptive air strikes against the
5:045 minutes, 4 secondsIslamic Republic of Iran. The United States military began major combat
5:105 minutes, 10 secondsoperations in Iran. Sirens are wailing and prophecies written thousands of years ago are stepping onto the world stage. Explosions over Thran,
5:215 minutes, 21 secondsretaliatory strikes, nations choosing sides. And the world asks, "Is this just another war?" History is not random.
5:315 minutes, 31 secondsEmpires will rise, empires will fall, but the word of God will stand forever.
5:385 minutes, 38 secondsIran, Israel, America, where are we in the unfolding plan of God?
5:455 minutes, 45 secondsAnd the Bible says, "When you see these signs, lift up your heads and rejoice.
5:515 minutes, 51 secondsYour redemption draweth nigh.
5:575 minutes, 57 secondsYeah, that might look crazy to you, but a lot of us were shown videos similar to that whenever bombings happened or whenever war broke out in the Middle East. This is what these people believe.
6:096 minutes, 9 secondsThey are looking for signs and wonders anywhere that they can find it. In fact,
6:146 minutes, 14 secondsanytime that war happens in the Middle East, spurred on by the US government or Israel, Christian Zionist pastors come out of the woodwork to tie it back to
6:236 minutes, 23 secondsancient biblical prophecy. In fact, one infamous example of this is Josh Howton,
6:286 minutes, 28 secondswho I've covered multiple times on this channel for being someone who plays loose with the truth and doesn't understand the Bible at all. Here's him
6:366 minutes, 36 secondsexplaining to his congregation how modern-day wars between nations in the Middle East actually could be the beginning of the war to end all wars.
6:466 minutes, 46 secondsThe Bible says that this attack at the end of time will come on Israel from the north and the south and that that will be the final war, the war to end all wars that will usher in the end of time.
6:556 minutes, 55 secondsNow, here's the question. Are we entering into that war right now? In Ezekiel 38 and 39, it mentions nations Gog and Mog. That's uh that that would
7:047 minutes, 4 secondsbe like modern-day Russia. It also mentions Persia in Ezekiel 38 and39 that corresponds to modern-day Iran. What we
7:127 minutes, 12 secondsdo know is that if Iran enters the war that Turkey and Russia will probably go with them, right behind them will be
7:197 minutes, 19 secondsNorth Korea and China. And if all of the world powers start attacking from the north and the south start trying to
7:267 minutes, 26 secondsattack Israel, that could be the war to end all wars that ushers in the end of history. You may be going right now
7:347 minutes, 34 secondslike, "Bro, this is heavy, man. Can I just say this? There's a lot of hope in Ezekiel 38 and39 because we know how that battle ends." But the Bible says
7:437 minutes, 43 secondsexactly at the moment when it looks like all hope is lost for God for for the descendants of Isaac that the Lord himself, Jesus Christ, will descend. He
7:527 minutes, 52 secondswill take the battlefield and he will win the war once and for all for all time. There's a lot in that video that I could point out, including Josh's
8:008 minuteshorrible biblical interpretation, the fact that Iran and Russia are not Gog and Magog. But the piece I want to really highlight is the level of glee
8:098 minutes, 9 secondsthat Josh Howton has talking about the war to end all wars. This idea of a massive war that will kill presumably
8:188 minutes, 18 secondsmillions of people because Josh thinks that he's on God's side and that the bombs aren't going to hit him. He's happy about it. But here's the crazy
8:258 minutes, 25 secondsthing. If the situation was reversed, if Iran was bombing America because they believed in order for God to come back,
8:328 minutes, 32 secondsthey had to be part of fulfilling certain prophecies. Josh Howardon would not be so gleeful and cheerful about all
8:398 minutes, 39 secondsof the hell on earth raining down from up above. That's how this logic works. Josh is happy about wars breaking out.
8:488 minutes, 48 secondsHe doesn't care about the casualties,
8:508 minutes, 50 secondsespecially if they're on the wrong side of the war. Now, for exangelicals like myself, hearing pastors declare that the end of the world is imminent was as
8:598 minutes, 59 secondsnormal as watching Saturday morning cartoons. It was just part of life. It's just what we heard. That's what we did.
9:059 minutes, 5 secondsMost of us who grew up in the basement of evangelical fundamentalism grew up hearing that we were living in the last days. Of course, this was told to us by
9:139 minutes, 13 secondspastors who have no credentials to speak as experts about the Middle East, but they are really good at using Bible verses to weave together a grand narrative. It goes something like this.
9:249 minutes, 24 secondsWe are living in the end times and wars,
9:279 minutes, 27 secondsglobalism, and Israel are all key ingredients needed in order for God to return and usher in Armageddon. And if you couldn't tell, this falls along
9:369 minutes, 36 secondspartisan lines. Obama wanted to usher in a globalist agenda. So, he was bad. And what President Obama has craftedly done
9:449 minutes, 44 secondsis to get average Americans desensitized to our pride in country or patriotism.
9:509 minutes, 50 secondsHe and others of his ilk are blatantly pushing globalist rhetoric to get us to give up our country in favor of ushering
9:579 minutes, 57 secondsin a new level of humanity that sees no God, no religion, and ultimately no nations.
10:0510 minutes, 5 secondsBut Trump wants to make America great again, so he's great.
10:0910 minutes, 9 secondsBut I felt then and believe even more so now that my life was saved for a reason.
10:1510 minutes, 15 secondsI was saved by God to make America great again.
10:2210 minutes, 22 secondsI'll let their legacy speak for themselves, but in order for the end of the world to happen, certain prophecies need to be fulfilled first. You need to
10:3010 minutes, 30 secondsunderstand that these doomsdayers are constantly on the lookout to see prophecy fulfilled in front of them.
10:3610 minutes, 36 secondsThey will read into anything as incontrovertible proof that we are living in a satanic world and that we're on the verge of the end. So get right
10:4510 minutes, 45 secondswith God because you don't want to be left behind. Now, you have to understand that this is a pretty big um and complicated system, okay? This is not
10:5310 minutes, 53 secondssimple. There's a lot of overlap and things aren't packaged with neat and clear boundaries, which is typical evangelicalism. Nothing ever exists in its own vacuum. They're always
11:0211 minutes, 2 secondsoverlapping and getting muddy with each other. But if you've ever heard people talk about the rapture or globalism or
11:1011 minutes, 10 secondsheard terms like the antichrist or the mark of the beast or the dreaded one world government, these are all related to the end times doomsday scenario that
11:1811 minutes, 18 secondswe're talking about. People in this cult, and I do say it is a cult, are obsessed with reading in between the lines on everything. In fact, one of my
11:2711 minutes, 27 secondsfavorite videos of all time that demonstrates this so perfectly is of a woman talking about how monster cans are satanic. Feast your eyes on this.
11:3711 minutes, 37 secondsLook at your M closely. There's a gap right here in the letter M. It's never connected. So, you go into Hebrew.
11:4611 minutes, 46 secondsThe letter V is also the number six.
11:4911 minutes, 49 secondsShort top, long tail. Short top, long tail. You could have here in Hebrew 666
11:5611 minutes, 56 secondson the camp. But my interest is the word monster. What do you see in the oak?
12:0412 minutes, 4 secondsThere's a cross. Okay.
12:0612 minutes, 6 secondsWhat has Christ got to do with an energy drink? Let alone the name monster. So I thought, well, maybe this is a Christian company then.
12:1612 minutes, 16 secondsBFC at the bottom of the can. Do you know what that stands for?
12:2112 minutes, 21 secondsIt's the F word. when they can.
12:2612 minutes, 26 secondsIn fact, they write it on the side of the can. So, I know that's the F word. Okay. Now, do you know what a MILF is?
12:3412 minutes, 34 secondsYes. That's on the box. Mils dig it. And you will, too. This is not a Christian company at all.
12:4212 minutes, 42 secondsSo, why would they have put a cross on the can? Here is the message. Antichrist
12:4912 minutes, 49 seconds666 in Hebrew. And then the Bible talks about the beast in Revelation. And look
12:5612 minutes, 56 secondsat monsters hat. This is their statement. You see these M's everywhere. Hats,
13:0313 minutes, 3 secondst-shirts, bumper stickers. Is there another agenda here? If God can use me product, so can Satan.
13:1113 minutes, 11 secondsAnd look at it this way. Even if the M was not the issue, you cannot deny that that is a cross.
13:1913 minutes, 19 secondsAnd what is witchcraft? When the cross goes upside down,
13:2613 minutes, 26 secondsbottoms up and the devil laughs. Something to think about. Wow.
13:3313 minutes, 33 secondsThis is how clever Satan is and how he can send a Christian home and a Christian's life and it breaks God's heart.
13:4113 minutes, 41 secondsJesus said, "My people perish for lack of knowledge."
13:4413 minutes, 44 secondsThat is not AI, my friends. That is real. And she is sincere. And frankly, I was taught things like that. I was taught that AC/DC stood for Antichrist,
13:5513 minutes, 55 secondsdevil's child. I was taught that Pokemon cards are probably demonic. Harry Potter was teaching me witchcraft. You get the point. All of these things are just
14:0314 minutes, 3 secondsinterpreted as signs that the end of the world is imminent. Things are getting worse and worse. The days are getting darker. So, buckle up because the
14:1214 minutes, 12 secondsrapture is coming. But let's back up for a second because have you ever asked yourself where does this theology come
14:1814 minutes, 18 secondsfrom? Like, how did these beliefs get so popular, especially among white evangelicals, most of which are statistically Christian nationalists?
14:2814 minutes, 28 secondsBecause if you ask the average white evangelical pastor, many of them would tell you this is just what the Bible clearly says. You'd assume that this is
14:3714 minutes, 37 secondshistoric Christian orthodoxy, that these beliefs have existed for millennia,
14:4114 minutes, 41 secondsright? I mean, maybe, for example, you grew up like me, so you read the Left Behind books. Maybe you were taught that at any moment the rapture would happen
14:5014 minutes, 50 secondswhere believers would vanish into thin air to be taken to heaven while the tribulation takes place and God judges the earth. Says it's going to be like
14:5814 minutes, 58 secondslightning that flashes from one part of the heaven to the other and that's the rapture. He's going to come in the heavens in the clouds in the twinkle of
15:0515 minutes, 5 secondsan eye. Okay. Many of us had real anxiety that we'd be left behind because even though we believed and did the
15:1315 minutes, 13 secondsright things, we weren't convinced that we were truly saved. Side note, sorry,
15:1815 minutes, 18 secondsside note for all of you normies out there who did not grow up with a debilitating fear of hell. Congrats. By the way, in evangelicalism, there's a
15:2515 minutes, 25 secondsheavy emphasis on double and triple checking to make sure that you're saved so you don't get left behind and therefore get killed and therefore end
15:3315 minutes, 33 secondsup in hell forever. So, as a kid, I walked down the aisle every time there was an altar call just to make sure I was truly saved, right? The altar call.
15:4215 minutes, 42 secondsOkay, let me explain. There's a couple variations, but the general just goes something like this. A pastor preaches a sermon. He then starts telling people
15:5015 minutes, 50 secondsthat those who aren't saved will end up facing the wrath of God. Or maybe they'll sugarcoat it and they'll say that God's love is so amazing, you can't
15:5715 minutes, 57 secondsmiss out. But make no mistake, they mean the same thing. And then they'll ask everyone to bow their heads and close their eyes. And they'll walk people
16:0516 minutes, 5 secondsthrough a prayer of salvation. It goes something like this.
16:0716 minutes, 7 secondsI want us to pray this prayer. Just say with me. Say, "Heavenly Father, I believe in my heart.
16:1216 minutes, 12 secondsI believe that you raised Jesus from the dead.
16:1516 minutes, 15 secondsI confess with my mouth I confess that Jesus is Lord." Jesus is Lord. The Bible says,
16:2116 minutes, 21 seconds"Whoever calls on the name of the Lord Whoever calls will be saved." Will be saved. Jesus, come in my heart. Jesus, come. Forgive me of my sins.
16:2916 minutes, 29 secondsForgive me. be the Lord of my life. Amen. After someone prays that prayer,
16:3316 minutes, 33 secondsthe pastor will then say with every head bowed and every eyes closed, man, I'm getting triggered just saying this.
16:4016 minutes, 40 secondsHe'll say, "Raise your hand if you receive if you prayed that prayer and received Christ into your heart." And then they'll say, "I see that hand. I
16:4816 minutes, 48 secondssee that hand. I see that hand." Then they'll say, "When the music starts, I invite you to walk down to the front to receive further prayer and to be given a
16:5616 minutes, 56 secondsBible." Okay, that's the general gist of an altar call. So naturally, as a 10-year-old who wanted to make sure he
17:0417 minutes, 4 secondswas really saved, I would pray that prayer. I would raise my hand. I would walk down the aisle. Now, other variations of this altar call also
17:1117 minutes, 11 secondsinclude asking already saved Christians to walk down the aisle as a sign that they're going to commit their life to Jesus again by dropping any kind of
17:2017 minutes, 20 secondshabitual sin that's in their life at the steps of the altar. Okay, which I would also do. And this kind of double and triple-checking. You know, this idea of
17:2817 minutes, 28 secondsnot being able to trust yourself, this kind of attitude, it it really you up to be honest. You have so much anxiety because you're afraid that no
17:3517 minutes, 35 secondsmatter how much you prayed the prayer or have been trying to show Jesus that that you are committed to him, that maybe one day you're going to be left behind.
17:4317 minutes, 43 secondsOkay, with all that in the background,
17:4517 minutes, 45 secondslet's get back to being afraid of being left behind. Because after all, this is what I was taught that all Christians for all time have believed, right? I
17:5217 minutes, 52 secondsmean, that's how it was sold in my churches. I'm sure that was sold how it was sold to you if you grew up like I did. But that's not true. That's wrong.
18:0118 minutes, 1 secondThis interpretive framework is known as dispensationalism. And here's the secret no one tells you. It was created in the
18:0818 minutes, 8 seconds19th century. That's right. Let that sink in. This theology is new. It's modern. And it's killing people. Buckle
18:1818 minutes, 18 secondsup. It's kind of a wild story. And honestly, it's a huge reason why all of this war is currently happening.
18:2418 minutes, 24 secondsSo, like anything, there's always more nuance than what anyone can capture in one telling of a story. So, keep that in mind. If you want the academic but
18:3218 minutes, 32 secondsaccessible version, read The Rise and Fall of Dispensationalism by Daniel G. Hummel. I just knocked over
18:4218 minutes, 42 secondsa cup while I said that and did that because that was off the cuff. Anyway,
18:4718 minutes, 47 secondsI've also interviewed Daniel Hmel on the uh New Evangelicals podcast several times, so make sure to go check that out, too, because he is great on this
18:5418 minutes, 54 secondskind of stuff. But here's the need to know of how dispensationalism took shape. It starts with this guy. His name
19:0219 minutes, 2 secondsis John Nelson Darby. He's a British theologian. He's a key founder of the Plymouth Brethren, a small denomination that actually still exists today and
19:1019 minutes, 10 secondshonestly deserves its own video, but for sake of time and not getting too sidetracked, ADHD. We'll save that for another time. But Darby developed a
19:1719 minutes, 17 secondsbiblical interpretive lens known as dispensationalism.
19:2119 minutes, 21 secondsSee, Darby believed that according to the Bible, God governs humanity uniquely in human history. And he broke it up into seven different dispensations or ages, which he says are the following.
19:3219 minutes, 32 secondsFirst, there's the age of innocence.
19:3419 minutes, 34 secondsThat's Adam and Eve in the garden. Then there's the age of conscience. This ends with the story of Noah's ark and the flood. Then we have the age of human government which starts in Genesis 8.
19:4419 minutes, 44 secondsThen there's the age of promise which goes from the call of Abraham and ends with the Jewish people in Egypt. Then we have the age of law. This lasts 1,500 years from Exodus until Christ's death.
19:5719 minutes, 57 secondsThen we have the age of grace. This is also known as the church age, which is the age we are currently living in. And then there's the age of the millennial
20:0520 minutes, 5 secondskingdom of Christ, which I will break down for you in a minute because it directly shapes America's Middle East policy. Now, one major distinction of
20:1420 minutes, 14 secondsdispensationalism compared to other Christian perspectives is that it teaches God has two distinct plans. One
20:2120 minutes, 21 secondsplan is for the church and one is for the Jewish people. Put a pin in that because I'll return to it later and explain to you why it matters.
20:2920 minutes, 29 secondsDispensationalism also has a detailed esquetology. That's a fancy way of saying a focus on the end times. And
20:3620 minutes, 36 secondswhile they debate the details and the order of events and even the length of time between the events that are to occur, the general story goes something
20:4420 minutes, 44 secondslike this. Okay, first the rapture will happen. Most dispensationalists believe that Jesus will suddenly and with no
20:5220 minutes, 52 secondswarning take believers from the earth in an event called the rapture. Think something like Thanos finger snapping
20:5920 minutes, 59 secondshalf of humanity out of existence. Only there's no slow, painful fading away moment. One moment they're here, the next moment they're gone. You're next to
21:0821 minutes, 8 secondsyour spouse, poof, gone. You're on a plane, half the passengers gone. And maybe even the pilot. That's the idea
21:1621 minutes, 16 secondsbehind it of the great disappearance.
21:2221 minutes, 22 secondsThe world will reel with concern from watching the strange, mind-boggling, and unbelievable video footage that goes viral across the globe.
21:3321 minutes, 33 secondsPeople vanish before their eyes. In a split second, Christians are taken to heaven while the rest of the world remains on earth. Now, this idea is
21:4221 minutes, 42 secondsbased largely on piss poor interpretations of passages like 1 Thessalonians 4 and was popularized in modern evangelical culture through
21:5121 minutes, 51 secondsthings like the Left Behind books and later movies that traumatized an entire generation of children, including me.
21:5721 minutes, 57 secondsUnbelievable. The whole world turned upside down. What if baby did you see?
22:0222 minutes, 2 secondsThis is insane. People don't just disappear. What's next? You knew.
22:0622 minutes, 6 secondsPeople are missing. Dozens of seats empty. What's going on, Captain? This How do you hide from something like
22:1522 minutes, 15 secondsThat's why I have therapy now. And remember, like I said earlier, because of the fear of maybe you're not truly saved, a lot of us were freaked out that
22:2322 minutes, 23 secondswe get left behind. Although, being the good Christian virgin that I was, I was also worried that God would rapture me before I had sex on my wedding night.
22:3222 minutes, 32 secondsSo, this the secrets out, everyone. I definitely asked God to delay the end of the world for me more than once. I'm sorry. Looks like he answered my prayer.
22:4222 minutes, 42 secondsNow, not all dispensationalists agree on when the rapture happens, okay? Some believe it occurs before the tribulation. I'll explain what that is
22:5122 minutes, 51 secondsin a second. Some believe it happens in the middle of the tribulation and some at the end of the tribulation. But honestly, the majority of American
22:5922 minutes, 59 secondsevangelicals who hold this system believe in what's called a pre-tribulation rapture. will be raptured and then the tribulation starts. And this means that Christians
23:0723 minutes, 7 secondswill disappear before the worst suffering begins. The terms for this are pre-trib, midtrib, and post-trib. When
23:1423 minutes, 14 secondswill the rapture happen? It depends on where you fall. That will give you that designation. That's the terminology.
23:2023 minutes, 20 secondsThat's the insider baseball lingo that we're dealing with here. Now, after the rapture, the second thing that happen is the tribulation. Well, what is that?
23:2823 minutes, 28 secondsWell, after all the believers are sucked up into heaven, by the way, naked because their clothes are all left behind, dispensationalists believe that
23:3623 minutes, 36 secondsthe world enters into a 7-year period called the tribulation. This is where God starts judging the world by letting it devolve into utter chaos. During this
23:4523 minutes, 45 secondstime, several major things are expected to happen. First, the rise of the Antichrist. A global political leader is going to take power and try to unite the
23:5423 minutes, 54 secondsworld under peace. Another thing that will happen is a one world government will happen or a global system emerges.
24:0024 minutesSevere wars, disasters and suffering are going to occur. The persecution of people who refuse the antichrist authority will happen. And finally, the
24:0924 minutes, 9 secondsmark of the beast, which people must accept to participate in the economy.
24:1424 minutes, 14 secondsThink back to that lady with the monster can. She's looking for that. Now, in dispensationalist thought, this period is also when many biblical prophecies
24:2124 minutes, 21 secondsfrom Daniel and Revelation are believed to be fulfilled, which I need to say here is based on shitty biblical
24:2924 minutes, 29 secondsinterpretation. There's a reason the overwhelming consensus of biblical scholarship does not teach that the prophecies in Daniel and Revelation are
24:3724 minutes, 37 secondsyet to be fulfilled realities. I will not go into the nitty-gritty, but what we do need to know here is that Revelation is written to a specific people in a specific time and culture.
24:4824 minutes, 48 secondsAnd the same thing goes for the book of Daniel. There is very little, and by that I mean no, evidence to suggest that it is written for modern American
24:5524 minutes, 55 secondsevangelicals who want the end of the world to happen. So, Christ comes back and they get sucked up into the clouds.
25:0125 minutes, 1 secondJust not what's going on in the text. I know it's a shocker when you think about it. Okay. The third thing that happened during this end of world seventh
25:0925 minutes, 9 secondsdispensation reality that they believe is going to happen is the battle of Armageddon. Near the end of the tribulation, near the end of the suffering of seven years,
25:1825 minutes, 18 secondsdispensationalists believe that a massive global conflict occurs. This is commonly called Armageddon. This is where war breaks out everywhere. Nuclear
25:2725 minutes, 27 secondsbombs are dropped and everything becomes a wasteland, a zombie apocalypse. War breaks out. Millions, tens of millions,
25:3525 minutes, 35 secondsmaybe even a billion or more people are going to die in this scenario. And according to this interpretation, the nations of the world are going to gather
25:4325 minutes, 43 secondsfor war in the region around Israel. Do you see now why so many people in this
25:5025 minutes, 50 secondsworldview are obsessed with everything that happens in the Middle East? They are looking for things like this or looking for signs that we are years away
25:5925 minutes, 59 secondsfrom Armageddon. And in dispensationalism, this battle represents the final confrontation between the forces of evil and God's
26:0726 minutes, 7 secondskingdom. And it's at this moment that Jesus returns to earth in what is called the second coming. Okay, that's the fourth part of this. Eventually, Christ
26:1526 minutes, 15 secondswill come back, but not as the Jesus that we read about in the gospels.
26:2026 minutes, 20 secondsYou're not going to find love your enemies Jesus here. Okay? You're not going to find blessed are the meek and the merciful Jesus. This is not who's
26:2826 minutes, 28 secondscoming back. This is warrior Jesus with a blood soaked cloak of his enemies.
26:3326 minutes, 33 secondsLunatic pastor Mark Driscoll says it like this. Because the testimony about Jesus is the spirit of prophecy. Then I
26:4226 minutes, 42 secondssaw heaven open and there was a white horse. Its rider is called faithful and true. And he judges and makes war in
26:5026 minutes, 50 secondsrighteousness. His eyes were like a fiery flame. And many crowns were on his head. He had a name written that no one
26:5826 minutes, 58 secondsknows except himself. He wore a robe stained with blood and his name is the word of God. The armies that were in
27:0627 minutes, 6 secondsheaven followed him on white horses wearing pure white linen. A sharp sword came from his mouth so that he might
27:1427 minutes, 14 secondsstrike the nations with it. He will shepherd them with an iron scepter. He will trample the wine press of the
27:2227 minutes, 22 secondsfierce anger of God the Almighty. And he has a name on his robe and on his thigh,
27:2827 minutes, 28 secondsKing of Kings and Lord of Lords. That's right. That's what he believes.
27:3527 minutes, 35 secondsThat's what many dispensationalists believe. That's why so many of them love Trump. That's why so many of them are Christian nationalists. In their mind,
27:4427 minutes, 44 secondsthe Jesus who loves his enemies is dead.
27:4627 minutes, 46 secondsThe Jesus who's coming back is going to kill his enemies. And they want to make sure that they're on God's side, which of course in their mind they definitely are. and anyone who opposes them is on
27:5527 minutes, 55 secondsthe side of the enemy. When Jesus comes back, he won't arrive again as a meek and mild baby, but he will come as a warrior to make all things right.
28:0528 minutes, 5 secondsYou see how all this battle language and war language plays a part in this worldview that they're on God's side and that one day God is going to defeat all
28:1328 minutes, 13 secondsof his enemies and just strike them dead. This is how it works. This is where it comes from. Dispensationalism. Then finally, when all that happens,
28:2128 minutes, 21 secondswhen when Rambo Jesus comes back and slays all of his enemies, the final dispensation happens, the millennial kingdom of
28:3028 minutes, 30 secondsChrist. Now again, this is based on a faulty understanding of Revelation 20.
28:3428 minutes, 34 secondsBut in this age, Christ reigns on earth for a thousand literal years. At least most of them believe that. Some think it's symbolic, but not important here.
28:4228 minutes, 42 secondsJerusalem becomes the center of his kingdom. Satan is bound and unable to deceive the nations and the world experiences a long period of peace and
28:5128 minutes, 51 secondsjustice under Christ's rule. In many dispensationalist interpretations,
28:5528 minutes, 55 secondsIsrael has a restored central role during this kingdom. We'll come back to that. And then finally, the final judgment. After a thousand-year kingdom,
29:0629 minutes, 6 secondsdispensationalist theology says that Satan is briefly released. Don't ask me why. And there's a final rebellion again. And then God carries out the
29:1429 minutes, 14 secondsfinal judgment of humanity, leading us into the final stage of the biblical story, the creation of a new heaven and new earth where God's kingdom is fully
29:2229 minutes, 22 secondsestablished. That's like uh the Lord of the Rings, um the return of the king, the non-stop endings where you think, "Okay, this is the ending. Oh no,
29:3129 minutes, 31 secondsthere's more." It's kind of like that.
29:3229 minutes, 32 secondsJust when you think Christ is back, oh shocker alert, Satan gets released and rebellion ensues again and then finally the end. It's a neverending reality in
29:4229 minutes, 42 secondsthis worldview. So, where are we in this timeline according to dispensationalists?
29:4729 minutes, 47 secondsWell, we're at the end of the sixth dispensation in entering the very beginning of everything I just described. And the rapture is the big
29:5529 minutes, 55 secondsone to look for first. And yes, Israel plays a major role in all of this.
30:0030 minutesRemember, I told you to keep a pin in the teaching that God has two distinct plans for the Jews and for Christians.
30:0630 minutes, 6 secondsThis is where that matters because in order for the rapture and the end of the world to come, certain prophecies about the Jews need to be fulfilled. God has
30:1430 minutes, 14 secondsto do certain things with the Jewish people, including giving them a homeland to return to. This is why the nation
30:2130 minutes, 21 secondsstate of Israel being created in 1948 was a huge sign according to these people that we were years away from entering the final dispensation of the
30:3030 minutes, 30 secondsrapture and apocalypse. Maybe you are not like me and you did not grow up in the evangelical fundamentalist tradition and you've always wondered why America
30:3930 minutes, 39 secondshas always stood so close with Israel even as they're currently carrying out a genocide in Palestine.
30:4630 minutes, 46 secondsThis is Christian nationalism 101 in dispensationalist theology. It's a huge part of this doomsday cult. It's the
30:5330 minutes, 53 secondsbelief that the Jews will return to their homeland and that they need to have a nation for themselves in order
31:0031 minutesfor God to usher in the end of the world. And I'm sure you're asking yourself, okay, even if that's true,
31:0731 minutes, 7 secondswhat the hell does this have to do with America? Well, I'll answer that for you.
31:1131 minutes, 11 secondsYou see, in Genesis 12:3, God tells Abram or Abraham, the father of the Jews, in the Bible, that God will bless
31:1931 minutes, 19 secondsthose who bless Abraham and curse those who curse Abraham. Dispensationalists and Christian Zionists like the current ambassador to Israel, Mike Huckabe,
31:2731 minutes, 27 secondsinterpret that text to mean that if America does not stand with Israel, God will judge us. that the Jewish people
31:3531 minutes, 35 secondsnot only belong here now, but they have belonged here for 4,000 years since the time God said to Abraham, "This is
31:4431 minutes, 44 secondsyours. Take good care of it." And you'll be a blessing to the people around the earth. And even to those of us who
31:5131 minutes, 51 secondsaren't even Jewish. He says, "Those who bless Israel will be blessed, and those who curse Israel will be cursed." And I
31:5831 minutes, 58 secondscome here tonight because I'd rather have a blessing than a curse.
32:0432 minutes, 4 secondsBecause of one verse in one chapter of one book of the English Protestant Bible, an entire theology stands that has been enabling genocide for years.
32:1332 minutes, 13 secondsAnd I also need to mention here that the Israel in the Bible is not even remotely comparable to the nation of Israel
32:2232 minutes, 22 secondstoday. They are two different things entirely. This is why biblical interpretation matters because shitty biblical interpretation can kill people.
32:3032 minutes, 30 secondsThere are also other things that need to take shape that will all point to the end times. And this is where you have your conspiracy hunters. They're looking for the rise of globalism in a one world
32:3932 minutes, 39 secondsgovernment that the antichrist will rule over and eventually force people to wear the mark of the beast in order to participate in the economy. This idea,
32:4732 minutes, 47 secondsalthough again greatly misinterpreted,
32:4932 minutes, 49 secondscomes out of Revelation 13. So much of today's conspiracy theories come from this ideology. American culture is soaked in it whether you see it or not.
32:5832 minutes, 58 secondsAnd that also goes for the war in Iran.
33:0133 minutes, 1 secondRemember, these people believe the more war that happens in the Middle East, the closer we are to the end. These people
33:0833 minutes, 8 secondsare in a death cult. And I don't mean that tritly. They view the deaths of the Iranians and Palestinians, men, women,
33:1633 minutes, 16 secondsand children, as simply expendable bodies to get us closer to the end of the world. They don't care about anyone
33:2233 minutes, 22 secondselse except for them and their own theology and their own God. I mean, just for a second, pause to think about all
33:3033 minutes, 30 secondsof the implications that I just described. What they believe is that anyone who's not a Christian like them will either be left behind to suffer or
33:3833 minutes, 38 secondswill eventually be slaughtered when Christ returns. This is probably a good time to mention that this theology is incredibly anti-Semitic because
33:4733 minutes, 47 secondsultimately they believe that the Jews will either convert to Christianity,
33:5233 minutes, 52 secondserasing their heritage and and their ethnicity as a people and they will recognize the true Messiah or they will be killed and sent to hell for all of eternity.
34:0234 minutes, 2 secondsThat's true. That's what they believe.
34:0434 minutes, 4 secondsAnyone outside of Christ, especially as how they describe it, is bound for hell eventually. Whether it's quick or whether it's painful, they're going to end up in hell unless they convert. So,
34:1434 minutes, 14 secondswith all of that said, there's something I have not told you yet. Something else that you need to know about John Nelson Derby. And first, let me say I can't
34:2334 minutes, 23 secondsprove that this definitely had an impact on his theology. But in 1827, he fell off a horse and hit his
34:3234 minutes, 32 secondshead pretty hard, suffering a major injury. And during this time recovering,
34:3534 minutes, 35 secondshe spent a lot of time reflecting on scripture, which deepened his theological convictions and then led to the development of his dispensationalist
34:4434 minutes, 44 secondsideas. So I want to summarize this really clearly for you. Much of US foreign policy as it relates to Israel
34:5234 minutes, 52 secondsin the Middle East stands on a theology that was invented in the 19th century by a guy who fell off his horse.
35:0035 minutesYep. The reason millions of kids were traumatized by the rapture is because a white dude fell off his horse and hit
35:0735 minutes, 7 secondshis head. This is the beginning of what would become modern pop culture American Christianity. So, of course, now that
35:1435 minutes, 14 secondsyou have all this information, whenever you hear a pastor or some random person on the internet claim that we're in the end times and the Bible predicted this,
35:2235 minutes, 22 secondsplease know it's utter horseshit. No pun intended. There's always going to be a new conspiracy, friends, that something is the mark of the beast. Back in the day, it was social security numbers,
35:3235 minutes, 32 secondsthen it was credit card numbers, then it was driver's licenses, then it was contactless payments. Some people thought the mark of the beast was wearing a mask during the pandemic or
35:4135 minutes, 41 secondsgetting the vaccine. Every president who's a Democrat is the new antichrist.
35:4435 minutes, 44 secondsAnd every couple of years, some new prophet comes around declaring that God told them when the end of the world is going to happen. And so follow me, sell
35:5335 minutes, 53 secondsall your stuff because the rapture is imminent. And so far, these people have been dead wrong on everything. They're batting zero. They're ow for like a
36:0136 minutes, 1 secondthousand. They are not right. They have been wrong every single time. Now, one thing I pride myself on personally when
36:0936 minutes, 9 secondsit comes to this channel is giving you all the nuance. And I need to do that here because plot twist, not all Christian nationalists are
36:1736 minutes, 17 secondsdispensationalists. I know that's shocking, but it's really important to stay factual and understand the nuance here because many Christian nationalists
36:2536 minutes, 25 secondsdo not believe any of this. One notable example who who I've also covered on this channel many times is Doug Wilson.
36:3336 minutes, 33 secondsWomen are the kind of people that people come out of. Doug Wilson is not a dispensationalist. Doug Wilson is a postmillennialist.
36:4236 minutes, 42 secondsPostmillennialism is an optimistic view of the future and how the world will end. They believe that the great commission to go and make disciples of
36:4936 minutes, 49 secondsall nations is actually going to be fulfilled. That the nations will overwhelmingly turn to Jesus before he returns. And therefore people like Doug
36:5836 minutes, 58 secondshave an obligation to Christianize the world to create a kind of global Christendom that will greet Christ when he returns. This is why Doug wants Jesus
37:0637 minutes, 6 secondsChrist is Lord in our constitution before he dies. He really believes that his job on earth is to make America a Christian nation in his image which of course is loaded with racism,
37:1637 minutes, 16 secondshomophobia, misogyny, xenophobia,
37:1837 minutes, 18 secondsislamophobia, etc. in order to speed up the return of Christ. There's a lot more to it. So, I'm going to make another
37:2637 minutes, 26 secondsvideo explaining all of this and the differences because it's important for you to know. So, make sure to subscribe to the channel so you get notified. But essentially, it goes like this.
37:3537 minutes, 35 secondsDispensationalists believe that the world has to get worse and worse before Christ returns. Postmillennialists believe that they have to Christianize
37:4237 minutes, 42 secondsthe entire world in order for God to return to Earth. And postmillennialists like Doug Wilson do not believe that God
37:4937 minutes, 49 secondshas a special plan for the Jews. And if you've been following any of the insider civil war action with MAGA, there's a
37:5637 minutes, 56 secondshuge rift between America's relationship to Israel, and it does fall along theological lines. I'll share more soon.
38:0438 minutes, 4 secondsI tell you all of this because the average American has no clue where these foreign policy decisions come from. And while there are certainly other factors involved, economic, geopolitical, etc.,
38:1638 minutes, 16 secondsthe theology is often overlooked. Many people in the government believe in the rapture. They believe that Christ will come back and kill all of his enemies.
38:2438 minutes, 24 secondsThey believe that America must be on the side of Israel or else we will be judged. And this theology is responsible
38:3138 minutes, 31 secondsfor killing so many people. This is why elections matter. This is why I tried to warn you before Trump took power that
38:3938 minutes, 39 secondsanother Trump term would be so much more detrimental than we could ever know because the Christian nationalist extremists who believe this stuff with
38:4638 minutes, 46 secondstheir whole chest are now in the government. Paula White who runs the faith council believes this. Her friends that she brings into the White House
38:5438 minutes, 54 secondslike Lance Wall now believe this and they are shaping policy. Hey, I cannot thank you enough for watching this video. Please consider becoming a
39:0239 minutes, 2 secondssupporter of this channel. If you want to see more content like this, please leave a comment. Let me know your thoughts. Let me know if you grew up in rapture theology. Were you also scared
39:1039 minutes, 10 secondsthat you would get left behind? Let me know in the comments. and I'll see you next time.
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@timwhitakerspeaks
9 days ago
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@Its_Time_to_Wake_Up_13
9 days ago
It's like the ending to the movie Paycheck (with Ben Affleck). "Whatever it predicts, we make it happen."

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@monrepos1001
7 days ago
the deception started a 100 years ago with the Schofield reference Bible.

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@dennisfri5379
8 days ago
Is this why, they have been focusing in making that bruise show on the president's hand ?
And why they focusing on having people talk about CK death?
And his widow seams like she's playing a movie role all the time?
Wouldn't be surprised if that pour CK was just a role in a bigger conspiracy that have yet played out.

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@Its_Time_to_Wake_Up_13
8 days ago
​ @dennisfri5379  Ask yourself this question. Why was uncensored brutal violence (this event) allowed to be seen all over this platform for weeks on end when this platform immediately bans similar content at all other instances.

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@Frontier2000AnoDomin
7 days ago
 @timwhitakerspeaks  
🤔🧠💭> "WHEN THE PEOPLE'S HOUSE, LIES SHATTERED
Red kerchiefs take the Floor,
When deserts burn in holy war
And unrest evermore.
When courts forsake their duty
And no prince must answer why,
When the cries of broken children fade
Beneath the Landlord’s lie.
When barons of wealth grow mighty
While the angry crowd the streets,
And engines forged by chosen few
Bring coin for just Elite.
Then a smiling king shall rise to rule,
Cloaked in promise, flame and deceit,
Turning brother against brother
Till the world falls at his feet"...

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@h.bsfaithfulservant4136
7 days ago
Thanks for this 👍

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@Archangelatis
7 days ago
There is a correlation between the prosperity gospel preachers and Christian Zionism. The fact that the New Apostolic Reformation (NAR) amplifies and merges the two. The Prosperity Gospel provides the "how" (faith + giving = blessing), Christian Zionism provides the key "why" (supporting the state of Israel invokes divine favour), and the dominion theology of the NAR provides the "what for" (to transform society and usher in the kingdom). The more we understand these connections, the better equipped we are to (prayerfully and thoughtfully) push back against these unbiblical ideas. Jesus is Lord! For Jew And Gentile. Like the religious leaders of Jesus’ time, many today are sadly and mistakenly seeking an earthly political Kingdom centred in Jerusalem.

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@gotredeemed
4 days ago
Tim, the drink can has what looks like railroad spikes, I know from experience. There are 3 of them like the Romans had. This company is mocking Christ.



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@marjoriezimmerman3969
1 hour ago
 @gotredeemed 😂



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@GingerPeacenik
5 days ago
No thank you. Down vote for the spouting of pure CIA propaganda at the start; NO, Iran is NOT a "brutal dictatorship that killed tens of thousands of it's own people". It has a democratically elected PRESIDENT who was out walking amongst citizens*without* security just two days ago. Could a "brutal dictator" do that? Could Trump? The Ayatollah is a spiritual leader, and also not an authoritarian one because there are thriving populations of Christians and Jews throughout Iran. The countries killing tens of thousands of their own people are the US and Israel!



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@IllusionistsBane
8 days ago
Remember that they accuse Iran of being led by religious nutjobs. Guess it takes one to know one.

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@havvagokce1441
8 days ago
 @IllusionistsBane  not only accuse. They caused that. Of course they know what they caused back then.

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@IllusionistsBane
8 days ago (edited)
​​ @havvagokce1441  Yeah. I got upset when I heard a podcast claiming to explain why this conflict was ordained in the Bible, mentioning the 1979 Islamic Revolution but not even mentioning the 1953 coup.

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@AbdulKarim-hz4pz
7 days ago
And the Muslim is the terrorist right? What a brainwashed society the US is.

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@sherrygadberryturner9527
6 days ago
How arrogant is it to believe a divine prophecy needs human intervention to come true. 😐🤬🤦🏻‍♀️

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@GuardaOjivas
6 days ago
​ @sherrygadberryturner9527  And it's monstrous belive that you need to help bibi to unalive babies to fulfill that prophecy

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@JForrestFisher--76
8 days ago
 @IllusionistsBane   Islamaphobia was always just a way to normalize theocracy, using what "they" are foing to promote the idea that only a theocracy can fight theocracy because western secularism is boring.

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@gondolacrescent5
7 days ago
Netanyahu and much of his Cabinet espouse Israeli Nationalism (Zionism). Their approach to foreign and internal policies is influenced by their belief that God has destined Israel to subjugate a larger portion of the Middle East than they currently possess.

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@MrsPlanetMaster
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​​ @gondolacrescent5 as an Anti Zionist American Jew I find Israeli leadership as terrorists, brutal, violent actions 🤔 ..

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@k7jeb
7 days ago
 @gondolacrescent5   Only just the Middle East?

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@robbieleeK9
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@aprilsno43012
8 days ago
What makes them think they can force Jesus to return?

The arrogance.

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@CandaceCasey-g2t
6 days ago
I have said this before as well. They are trying to force God's hand. That's not how this works.

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@sherriroach6
4 days ago
 @CandaceCasey-g2t that's exactly what the Tower of Babel was about. Forcing God on their terms.

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@robbieleeK9
2 days ago
 @CandaceCasey-g2t  actually worked before creating the state of Israel. Religion is allowed & used by the elites & it gives God a bad name.

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@11235but
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@jonnyeggman
4 days ago
 @aprilsno43012  and the stupidity, in the very unlikely event that a supreme being actually exists why on earth would such an all powerful entity require help from the likes of  half witted Donald trump and his associates.🤣🤣

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@irenecraig8889
1 day ago
 @jonnyeggman  because the magamites were told that djt was the man to help them.  They were right;  right?  He is doing EVERYTHING they tell him to do.  DJT is not dreaming up these ideas, he is the one who 'makes it so'.  They have a mandate to engulf the entire world in war, and it's happening right before our eyes.



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@15T101st
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​ @jonnyeggman funny how that works isn't it? How you are in YouTube comments demeaning and slandering the president calling him half witted but where is he and where are you again? Oh your opinion will mean something when your worth a billion fucking dollars and a 2 time I ited states president!



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@votebrian66
5 days ago
I thought the antichrist was coming first and Jesus was coming to defeat him but now they are just skipping over that bit

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@irenecraig8889
1 day ago
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@janejones8672
5 days ago
In the year 7510, if God is coming, he ought to make it by then 🎵🎵🎵🎼🎶

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@troycarpenter4913
8 days ago
If “god” is removing evil leaders, Bibi & Trump card are in deep 💩

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@Elmachable
5 days ago
It's all fun and games when war is far away from your home.

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@SunkissedGoddess7359
7 days ago
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@RealmForge100
8 days ago
It’s not a secret, they’re just batshit insane

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@tumisechriss
7 days ago
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@BetaJantine
8 days ago
You are 100% correct about how gleeful all these church preachers are about war. Easy to be that way when bombs aren’t falling on them, their cities aren’t being destroyed, and their children aren’t dying.

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@brenatevi
8 days ago
They still wouldn't care. It would just justify their "end of the world" beliefs.

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@jod791
8 days ago
Wonder how they're going to spin it now that said war they were banging the drums for is going to start tightening their congregation's purse strings. Oh no, they'll have to drive last year's Mercedes-AMG GT Coupe. The horror!

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@camerynr8344
8 days ago
 @jod791  you must’ve never been in one of these churches, the harder the times are, the MORE MONEY you need to tithe😂

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@SupposeiamPsycho
8 days ago
with Gawd on Our side

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@rsh793
7 days ago
Americans would be less keen on war if they stopped fighting them on other countries soil and it happened there - it should

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@Archangelatis
7 days ago
There is a correlation between the prosperity gospel preachers and Christian Zionism. The fact that the New Apostolic Reformation (NAR) amplifies and merges the two. The Prosperity Gospel provides the "how" (faith + giving = blessing), Christian Zionism provides the key "why" (supporting the state of Israel invokes divine favour), and the dominion theology of the NAR provides the "what for" (to transform society and usher in the kingdom). The more we understand these connections, the better equipped we are to (prayerfully and thoughtfully) push back against these unbiblical ideas. Jesus is Lord! For Jew And Gentile. Like the religious leaders of Jesus’ time, many today are sadly and mistakenly seeking an earthly political Kingdom centred in Jerusalem.

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@samo9275
2 days ago
 @Archangelatis  Incredibly well explained. 

"There is neither Jew nor Greek, there is neither slave nor free, there is no male and female, for you are all one in Christ Jesus"

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@CrushTheSerpent92
5 days ago
Please don't think all evangelicals are like the preachers featured in this man's video. Those men do not represent real evangelical Christianity at all, and we call them out all the time for what they teach. We are not all Christian Zionists and we are, in fact, anti-Zionists. There are many in the Reformed tradition (Baptists, Presbyterians, Protestant Reformed, Dutch Reformed, Sovereign Grace, etc.) and non-Reformed Baptists (Independent) that are taking the opportunity of this war situation to speak out against this war, the atrocities done in Gaza, and the stranglehold the Israeli gov't and American Jews have over our politicians.

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@lydiapetra1211
4 days ago
 @CrushTheSerpent92  I completely agree with you...

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@yabobayo5787
5 days ago
 @CrushTheSerpent92 I hope see because I have been to a couple of churches where they had Israeli flag in the church. 
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@EllieM_Travels
4 days ago
The USA isn’t even in the Bible. These people are just plain nuts!

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@sarae6657
7 days ago
I grew up in the 80's and 90's in evangelicalism. Lots of sermons about Israel, I read the Left Behind series, etc. I have a journal entry from the early 90's saying goodbye to everyone I love/the world bc I had heard a sermon about the rapture happening on a certain date back then. These predictions have been going on for centuries and they're never right.

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@maiafae4807
9 days ago
I'm relieved ppl are finally talking about this more. Unfortunately the normie religious ppl around me flat refuses to believe these fundamentalists hijacked their party and religion.

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@timwhitakerspeaks
9 days ago
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@graywillis4935
9 days ago (edited)
What i find interesting is that they believe the establishment of isreal as a nation is biblical. The Bible does say they were scattered across the earth. The part they leave out is that isreal is supposed to have been sold into captivity, on ships, to a people with no mercy for they elderly or the young, and made a byword amongst all nations. And cut off from being a nation. For 400 years.

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@DorianPaige00
8 days ago
 @graywillis4935  Math isn't one of their strong suits.  It's one part war profiteering and second part entertainment mostly to serve as distraction.

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@chiguy722
9 days ago
 @graywillis4935  YES 👍🏽 💯

Also, others will lend to them and he will not lend to them. Who sets the interest rate and have since America was nation?

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@NewJerusalem145
8 days ago
 @graywillis4935  the temple in Jerusalem was destroyed in 70 A.D.

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@RedheadComposer
8 days ago
Agreed. I’m no longer religious, but I grew up with this theology. The influence of Christian Zionism on foreign policy has been incredibly destructive and destabilizing. It’s also, at its core, very deeply antisemitic - there’s little to no regard for the welfare of the Jewish people; they’re just pawns used to bring about an end which will ultimately destroy them. 

Christian Zionism is an incredibly problematic position for ambassadors and other American politicians to have. Their focus is on manipulating events in the Middle East to bring about the apocalypse- not working for the best interests of the US or the people who live and work in the Middle East.

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@DorianPaige00
8 days ago
 @RedheadComposer  These sermons and anti-whatever groupism is a test as to what others will put up with.  They use 3000 year old text to justify and influence action for modern day problems.  Basically if you call a certain political party terrorist and say anyone supporting them should be subject to laws defunding their support, you've basically said it's okay to seize your neighbor's land and possessions if he's not enrolled in your political party.

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@JaneofArc
8 days ago
I am a follower of Jesus Christ, but I am an outcast from my family. I see the same things you're talking about and was cut off for trying to warn people. They freaked out and rebuked me for over an hour using the bible out of context. I said things about Trump and they lost their crap. "Touch not God's anointed!". The pastors said if you don't vote for Trump, you are a disappointment to God. They twist it in a way, it's hard for most to discern the lies because they never knew Jesus or His Word. They are brainwashed and don't check for themselves. My family is Canadian which goes to show you that people all over the world have been snake bitten and are under a spell. Literally. Most Christians I see are deceived, but there are some of us out here that can see the Truth.

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@chiguy722
8 days ago (edited)
 @JaneofArc Keep up the good fight my sister. If I may exhort you with a scripture Revelation 3:21 “To him that overcometh will I grant to sit with me in my throne, even as I also overcame, and am set down with my Father in his throne”. The goal is for all of us to sit on his throne, and then to the FATHER’S kingdom. Hang in there.

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@Chrissy-h8o1k
7 days ago
@Jan @JaneofArc xactly. Christianity and Zionism is an oxymoron. It just goes to show many don’t read the Bible for themselves, they just settle for twisted, watered down versions.

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@danielladavis8705
9 days ago
This is so shameful. It is so obvious they care nothing for Christ's words: "Blessed are the Peacemakers."

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@Mbokodokazi
9 days ago
Neither…love thy neighbour

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@christinec28
9 days ago
Trump thinks he's a Peacemaker tho lol 🙃🙃

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@Lolli-n3x
9 days ago
​ @christinec28 the leader of Iran will be more of a peacemaker when he retaliates and kills Trump

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@BasalaWaZeytoun
4 days ago
 @christinec28  
when we call them to peace, theyll claim we are the paragons of peace.
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@tmkeesler
9 days ago
 @danielladavis8705  o don’t know if you’ve seen the DHS recruitment ads that show guys all kitted up like SF operators, kicking in doors, and generally doing “cool war sh!t” made to glamorize and glorify combat and violence. But, in that ad they display that Bible verse, as if to claim that ICE and DHS are indeed the peacemakers.

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@stevecamo1
8 days ago
Wonderful comment, the Ten Commandments into two, Love God with everything within you and Love thy neighbour. Blessed are the peacemakers.

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@daveduffy2823
7 days ago
Once Christianity became the Roman religion, it became part of their war machine. The phrase “In this sign thou shalt conquer” tells us that this is a war culture. The teachings of Jesus were thrown away.

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@renatosantiago2461
7 days ago
But Trumpig got a Fifa peace prize... doesn't that make him a peacemaker??

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@MsCheeze8
7 days ago
Matthew 19:24 (ESV): "Again I tell you, it is easier for a camel to go through the eye of a needle than for a rich person to enter the kingdom of God".

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@au7-721
5 days ago
​@MsCheeze8  That was spoken to the nation of Israel not to you.
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@johnswansen192
9 days ago
I'd rather be cursed than support Israel.

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@DestinyPuzzanghera
7 days ago
Thanks for this. I’m glad that you broke free from those crazy people.

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@samhersch6926
7 days ago
Tim, Thank you for calling out the theology. I am Jewish entrant into the Episcopal Church, and I was baptized when I was eighteen. My grandfather survived the Holocaust, so I was curious about what Evangelicals thought about that. When I was seventeen, I managed to call Jerry Jenkins’ secretary, who told me that he would talk with me on the condition that I read the first book in the Left Behind series. I stopped reading it after the first sentence. That was that.

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@kaitlyndurham5851
7 days ago
I grew up deep in evangelical culture and I was constantly praying to make sure I was still saved. The trauma is so real.

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@sueholdener4135
9 days ago
They didn’t expect their messiah to show up as a baby born in a barn the first time- what makes them think that it’s going to play out the way they interpret the future now?

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@ismata3274
9 days ago
 @sueholdener4135  according to what Jesus says in bible, it won't.
People will say Lord! Lord! We prophesied in your name and cast out demons in your name and performed many miracles in your name.' and will hear, depart from me.... I never knew you.... And we all know Matthew 25: 41-43, you clothed me not, you fed me not... you didn't do any of those for least of these, so, (again) DEPART FROM ME!.....
Seeing these verses, the loud demon catchers (?!) group that sees poor as deserving staying poor/in need will be hearing many "depart from me!" s from Jesus at the end of days, when people were send to their last destinations.

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@WardofSquid
5 days ago
​ @ismata3274 This is what I've been pointing to a lot.

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@glenncleary9758
8 days ago
​ @ismata3274 he was meaning your own self... Your own demons when you go into thyself.. My God!! People need to read and understand the real Bible Etheopian Bible ❤❤❤



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@ismata3274
9 days ago (edited)
Strange thing is, the ones feeding clothing visiting... and are welcomed warmly and praised there by Jesus, will say, umm... Lord? When did we see you???(sounds like saying sir who were you again?) When did we fed, clothed, taken care of you? İt sounds like they were very surprised that what they did was important and good in the eyes of the lord of judgement. They don't sound like they even knew such a Lord existed.
And we're back to love your neighbor is enough deed for heaven according to Jesus in God's eyes.

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@Em_Elizabeth
9 days ago
Back then, religious authorities expected the Messiah to be a warrior, a political leader who would drive the Romans out

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@nathantafelmeyer5109
9 days ago
 @Em_Elizabeth  Yes but the point was, they continued to cling to that false gospel, even after Jesus, and afterwards the apostles, corrected them. God then sent them a strong delusion and destroyed them through the Roman armies at his coming.

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@PeterLorimer-h3n7u
8 days ago
This same Evangelical apocalyptic crap happened during Dubya's Second Gulf War for those of you old enough to remember.
No rapture then.
What a bummer.

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@CandaceCasey-g2t
6 days ago
​ @PeterLorimer-h3n7u I remember

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@mytubenavn
7 days ago
I'm a (happy) atheist, but if we were to look at the gospel with enough attention, Jesus would be so much more likely to be born as one of the children of Gaza under the bombs of criminal Is.ael, or one of the children of immigrants terrorized by ICE in Minnesota, than as somebody belonging to his band of billionaires who've been making extra millions at the stock market since the war started, while bombing schools full of innocent children.

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@PeterLorimer-h3n7u
7 days ago
​@mytubenavn  As an Aramaic speaker in Roman occupied Judea, he would look JUST LIKE the Palestinians in Israeli occupied Gaza.
Jesus was not Israeli ... an observant Orthodox Jew, maybe.

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@samuelarvizu7648
8 days ago
They want to meet their creator but fear dying.

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@lisalisa20907
4 days ago
American former Baptist, current Methodist (mellow version of Methodist), here to say Thank you for sharing this information.   I have been sounding this alarm for years.  I am also a retired professor.   That a sliver of global Christianity, and an American 19th c fringe dogma, is driving US policy and now (again) war in the Middle East is insane!  All Americans, especially Christians, need to raise our voices to stop this!  American Christian Zionism is Not our Christian tradition, and criticizing it is not antisemitism .  We can support Isreal AND criticize its genocide in Gaza and attacks in Lebanon and Iran.

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@angel_swty
9 days ago
Not surprised we’re in another war. This is the only thing America actually puts unlimited money and resources into. I hate it! And shame on all the folks rejoicing over the loss of lives in Iran and cheering on this war!!!!

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@BenjaminMeeMusicMan
3 days ago
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@_veryspoopyghost_
6 days ago
The new testament literally tells us to not instigate, provoke, or celebrate the arrival of the end times. We are supposed to be simply content and accepting of the idea when it comes. Its the Jewish faith that started the whole "it needs to happen RIGHT NOW and we are gonna LOVE IT" narrative. Zionism and evangelism have had some dire consequences on the mainstream Christian community.

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@EricaC-t9r
8 days ago
The brainwashing is so extreme!! Even having been raised in this culture it still shocks me to see how far these people take things that aren’t based in any reality or true translation of the bible.

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@joshuakeller634
8 days ago
I don't believe in this end times stuff...but I would love to see Jesus show up and say, "I asked you to feed the hungry, you didn't. I asked you to care for the sick.  You didn't.  I asked you to welcome the stranger.  You didn't."

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@Diane-kw5ub
3 days ago
I was raised catholic (since converted) never heard much about the rapture in class

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@AmericanDervish
7 days ago
Do they realize Iran has Christians who openly practice?

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@inlandsailor2541
8 days ago
I love the way the word “prophecy” is scattered around so freely.  It’s simply people having “a feeling.”

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@jeannewells1349
9 days ago
Removing evil leaders? Can we get some of that?

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@JustAverageJeff
8 days ago
Why are we letting a bunch of corrupt morons run the country?

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@bradgillette3325
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@melissaturffs9612
6 days ago
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@MilMil-n1m
9 days ago
Absolute insanity!!! As a Catholic I cannot fathom anyone, especially claiming to be a Christian, cheering to ppl being bombed!!! Wth??? American "Christian nationalism" (an oxymoron really) is a mind disease discouraging ppl to follow the TRUE & PEACEFUL teachings of Christ! It's truly depressing 😢

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@zenfirebird5360
9 days ago
Blame propaganda. The bombing are being presented as actions carried out by a man chosen by God. It is basically the similar propaganda used for the Spanish Inquisition and the Crusade and oftentimes when someone plays the God card to justify actions it tends to be bad.

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@sadusattack2628
8 days ago
I'm United Methodist and I agree. Cheering bombing people is quite disturbing especially when there's always collateral. I mean, people are defending the bombing of that children's school. They bombed it twice. Once that killed the children, then the second bombing killing the first responders.

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@olgrrr55
8 days ago (edited)
"..."(Not)..they are white supremacists 🫣😱👀(eg:"Christians" deporting Christians!??)

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@Eyeluvlola
8 days ago
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@Trekster1268
8 days ago
 @MilMil-n1m  and remember, the German Not Sees were also Christian nationalists

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@MilMil-n1m
8 days ago
​ @Trekster1268  Yes. That's the ultimate example of twisting Christian teaching. But just because they claimed to be Christian, does not mean in reality that they were. Their action directly opposed what Christ taught, in the most vile way. Shame such monsters manage to bring bad name to Christianity. You're absolutely right.



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@SunShineCanyon
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 @MilMil-n1m  You must not be familiar with John Martignoni famous Catholic  apologist. I use to follow him till his love of Trump come through.  He was too aligned with what evangelicals were espousing.



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@MilMil-n1m
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​ @SunShineCanyon  There are many rotten, misleading "catholics" like there r many such ppl in every group. But the head of the Church is the Pope n he continually speaks up against this violence, these policies and fake "christianity". The Church is not defined by those who infiltrate it to oppose its message. Bottom line is CHRIST Himself would never condone violence and He is the one all Christians should follow



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@NeilDonald-y5h
9 days ago (edited)
I agree, but please remember that Opus Dei, a Catholic movement, is also Christian Nationalist. In fact, many members of the Heritage Foundation, authors of Project 2025, are Catholic. However, unlike many fundamentalist evangelicals, they do not believe in dispensational (end times) theology. Christian Nationalism is not exclusively a Protestant fundamentalist evangelical phenomenon.

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@MilMil-n1m
9 days ago
​ @NeilDonald-y5h  100% there are MANY Catholic nationalists too, in fact there are many in every branch of Christianity and other religions. And in EVERY one of those, they go against what Christ taught so basically they r "religious" only in theory. I am a Catholic but that doesn't mean I claim that all Catholics are perfect, by no means. "You should know them by their fruit" applies to all Christians, without exception.

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@geoffreyclarke2240
9 days ago
I grew up in a family that was Christian nationalist dispensationalist.  These videos are very informative and I’m happy I’m not the only one who grew up like this and then got out of it.  It’s a cult

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@Amfneey
8 days ago
I think even if we are in the "Last Days", we need to spend those last days being like Jesus, and showing His love every where we go. Not because we want to gain something from it, but because it's objectively the best, and most Christ-like thing we can do with our time on this earth.

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@timothystark4181
5 days ago
This is all beyond crazy.

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@matthewstearns289
5 days ago
Sad thing is they have nukes.

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@EstellaBeard
9 days ago
Too many of the Nationalists are over reaching God's plans.

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@Lolli-n3x
9 days ago
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@bento_spinoza
9 days ago
 @Lolli-n3x  certainly when god doesnt exist

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@karenallen7064
9 days ago
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@Ryan91487
4 days ago
They believe they can manipulate providence, and even in other religions that aren't even of Abrahamic origin, we know what happened to people like that who in their hubris believed they could deceive the divine.

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@colberthunter12
8 days ago
Which means religion needs to be regulated heavily.

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@bento_spinoza
8 days ago
​ @colberthunter12  correct. Heavily and not by the heavens 😂

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@sleepyearth
5 days ago
They are arrogrant which is something God do not want.

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@nathantafelmeyer5109
9 days ago
 @EstellaBeard  You mean globalists, not nationalists.

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@-Ice_Cold-
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@glenncleary9758
8 days ago
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@rapunzel2028
9 days ago (edited)
Oh, this whole discussion has taken me back years to the time I was a scared little girl, freaking out any time a Palestinian kid threw rocks at IDF or someone blew themselves up at a Tel Aviv pizzeria. I spent so many sleepless nights, praying and re-praying the "sinner's prayer" over and over again in the hopes that it would finally "Stick" so that I wouldn't be "left behind." There were many times in when I was looking after my siblings (I'm the oldest) when my parents had bible study and if they didn't get back when we exactly expected them to, oh, I thought the rapture had happened and we had all been left behind. Yes, it freaked me out. I had SO much fear and anxiety and what did my parents say when I got scared? "Just have faith!" Or, "You're being a hypochondriac, Jesus didn't give us a spirit of fear!"

Geesh, when I was around 10/11 years old, the church showed the original "left behind" movies, aka the Thief in the Night trilogy to a bunch of us kids and encouraged us to invite the "unchurched" neighborhood kids so that we could freak them out too with that song that I can't, to this day, listen to without getting shivers up my spine. Any time something happened in the Middle East, it was like this--"this is a fulfillment of this or that verse, etc" but if it's a genocide in Guatemala? The Balkans? Rwanda? Nah, who cares about any of those places! 

I'm glad I rejected these heretical, diabolical, bloodthirsty beliefs because as I got older, the more appalled I got at the gleeful bloodthirstiness of them all and yes, I was scared of something like oh, the year 2000 coming or the thought that I would never go to college or get married and have sex, etc. Funny how I wasn't along in those fears. It seems we all had them, the fear that we didn't have a future.

Despite rejecting it, it has left me with anxiety disorder and trauma that I still need to heal from but it is a relief to know that I'm not alone. We were done wrong and now, we're seeing the bitter, ugly fruit of this diabolical belief system and all it's doing is creating a lot of death and destruction. This isn't the Gospel. This isn't Jesus. It's wrong.

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@dogdooONshoe
7 days ago
Night terrors are more profitable for the huckster than the peace that passes all understanding. I was 8 when my church participated in that abomination. Spiritual abatement, not deconstruction, has taken decades for me.

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@yllejord
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@rapunzel2028
7 days ago
​ @yllejord it's what I grew up in. Nearly all the churches shoved this down our throats. My parents didn't knowingly try to abuse me. In their minds, they thought they were teaching the "truth".

Later in life, my daddy apologized for what he had done. He saw the effect it had had on me. My mom? She's never attributed my anxiety and other trauma on these beliefs and trying to get her to see how evil they are is impossible so I've given up trying.

That's what is insidious about these beliefs and this type of culture--it's not seen as child abuse. That thought is the furthest from their minds and it's only in being outside of it that one sees it for what it is.

As you can see, even I, who has been out of evangelical christo-nationalist culture for nearly 30 years, still has a hesitancy to say that my parents were abusers. Instead, I see them as people who were very ignorant at the time and easily swayed .

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@hollyl4425
16 hours ago
Many are deceived by the father of lies. Follow Jesus alone and His words in scripture - He is the way!



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@miriamwells35
2 days ago
 @rapunzel2028  same



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@KJawn
9 days ago
Man this is strong delusion....

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@terriemartin7683
1 day ago
These people are crazy!!!!!!!!

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@judyw-k3o
3 days ago
Exactly why I quit going to church 20 years ago something was off and absurd about it . There are more hypocritical hateful people in church then I ever seen in the world. I am a believer in faith filled with the holy Spirit and that has never left me .

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@rhizin
9 days ago
I'm a lifelong atheist from Europe, Eastern Germany. I grew up without much religion at all (contrary to rumours.. no, it was not banned, just not endorsed), and all of this is so alien to me. And now these people risk a third world war. It is something I simply can not compute.

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@SqueezeOrangeKings
13 hours ago
I had numerous panic attacks as a child when my mom took too long to come home or I couldn’t find her in the house - I thought I was left behind.

My legs would literally get weak and shaky and my heart would race.

I had a plan to confirm it by checking the radio to see if the local stations were broadcasting the rapture news or not.

Left Behind definitely caused a LOT of fear in my younger days.

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@trent9872
2 days ago
When I was a kid, the rapture movies were real popular in churches. I saw one or two of them. Sometimes I'd come home from school and nobody else was home, and then an hour or two would go by without anyone coming home. There were multiple times where I panicked because I worried that the rapture happened and I was left behind.

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@darrinharvey3384
9 days ago (edited)
I really want to listen to this to be better informed about what is said at different churches but I just can’t. What these people say makes me sick as a minister as a pastor and a teacher of the Bible. Like literally, I feel physically ill. Thank you for the work that you do and tackling these issues because my patience is at an end with these Christian nationalist evangelicals. God forgive me.

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@SherminalVelocity84
9 days ago
When I was a little kid growing up with my Christian family I would literally have a panic attack if I ever lost sight of them in the store or if they were ever late picking me up from the babysitter because I was CONVINCED that I had been left behind.. 

I'm so glad to be free of that abusive belief system

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@timnewman1172
8 days ago
I was raised Lutheran, we were taught Dispensationalist/End Times eschatology was complete hokum!

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@gamtngirl3655
2 days ago
I learned so much from this. Especially the understanding of Dispensationalism. Thank you. I subscribed. And, Tim, good on you for seeing the light.

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@rationalhuman2149
9 days ago
I lost count of how many preachers I have heard say “the lord told me it would happen in my lifetime”.  These preachers are all long dead and buried.

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@bradleyperry6421
9 days ago
Self fulfilling, man made prophecy!

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@ballinkingston
9 days ago
For two thousand years people have tried to predict the end times. They have all been wrong and will continue to be wrong. Jesus said that no one knows the time but the Father.

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@candymachinellc348
7 days ago
Someone should have shown me this video when I was a little girl!

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@Sarah-1a2j3l
6 days ago
Wow! Such a great video. Thank you so much! I shared it with a lot of people. Keep it up.

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@DeliaFlo
9 days ago (edited)
These churches need to be taxed just like everyone else. I bet they would then say they are being persecuted and victimized by the liberals.  These people need to stop drinking the kool aid. I did attend an Evangelical church and never could make sense of this beliefs. I have returned to Catholic Church and now feel so much peace. The last bible study was about revelation and I left it behind me(pun intended).  it was so political. I never got scared of all this interpretations because the Protestants could never agree on anything. Argument after argument, detailed graphs and charts galore causing confusion and separation.  So I never study this subject and told my family that they aren’t in control of our beliefs. So sorry I even attended those churches

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@judithsutter6837
9 days ago
If you believe that God is mighty all powerful. And His will be done!  Then why force the end times? It is almost like they are telling God what to do. And in the Bible, it says not to test the Lord your God.

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@timwhitakerspeaks
9 days ago
A perfectly stated summary of the contradiction

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@judithsutter6837
9 days ago
​ @timwhitakerspeaks Thanks my Father taught me well. ❤

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@jamestita3281
8 days ago
Exactly! Like God needs man to fight his battles. I remember reading about these in Sunday School. Didn’t Jesus Christ say many will come in my name? False prophets and when Christ returns he’ll tell them whatsoever you do to any one of these children you did onto me. When I was hungry, homeless etc. Jesus also said not all who say Lord will inherit the kingdom of God. Some will say they preached in his name and performed miracles in his name and he will cast them away. Do these people really study the Bible or simply fantasize about the end times?

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@JoelHernandez-hm2ot
9 days ago
Great analysis as a Christian I say the same thing God doesn’t need men to do His will he will allow things to happen when the times are right. We shouldn’t force anything on anyone

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@judithsutter6837
9 days ago
​ @JoelHernandez-hm2ot Exactly! 100 percent true! Amen!



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@SurelyNOTtoday
8 days ago
The lust for power.



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@sonyacalef8639
8 days ago
This is where they toss the OT out the window and say it means nothing at all since resurrection.  So many cherries picked.



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@WillyShufflebottom
8 days ago
I'm so terrified of people like this. It's such a unique form of creeping dread, they hope for the end times while surrounded by comfort, not realizing what they are praying for. I wonder if they will scream and cry like those mothers in those ruined countries we see on TV when it's their child with half their face missing from a wartime explosion.

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@MsRogersmusic
6 days ago
Rambo Jesus…. I spit out my coffee 😂

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@cmygamelife
9 days ago
I have a traumatic brain injury and can get manipulated VERY EASILY. I have no business being in a position of power and even decided not to have children because it wouldnt be fair to them to not be a present parent 100% of the time. Much less only being able to function 2 to 3 hours at a time... why tf do we have people in leadership that have brain injuries and brain worms and deteriorating brains?

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@CelticRover42
9 days ago
Abraham had more than one child. Yet somehow they forget to care about God's judgment for cursing the children of Ishmael.

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@gracemadison8135
7 days ago
They’ve put a wolf disguised as lamb to manipulate Christians.

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@TheZoidberg312
9 days ago
I feel dumber listening to the lady analyze the Monster can.

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@MeezBoss
9 days ago
Trump's America is run by AIPAC (American ISRAEL Public Affairs Committee); Israel does NOT believe in Jesus Christ...

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